r/PublicFreakout Jan 24 '23

2 lady’s flipping a guys car after he burnt the Quran Repost 😔

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u/dazraf Jan 25 '23

I mean, his intention was to piss Muslims off. I would say he succeeded.

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u/Snazzy21 Jan 25 '23

With the right crowd that's not very hard . Show photo of prophet- get threats and potentially killed. Burn Quran- face potentially violent retaliation. Don't wear the proper hijab as a women- "morality police" might kill you. Write a book they don't like- get a fatwa issued sanctioning your execution.

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u/marshall_lathers99 Jan 25 '23

That one teacher in France that got beheaded for showing just a picture. And the professor in the states that showed a PAINTING getting fired.

Religious fanatics don’t deserve to breath

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u/RaZZeR_9351 Jan 25 '23

and he was murdered for it by her dad anyway.

It wasn't her dad, it was a russian muslim 18 years old refugee, her dad is responsible for telling everyone in their community the girl's lies.

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u/Sierra_12 Jan 25 '23

Actually the French teacher never did that. The girl lied and her father based in her word killed him.

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u/RaZZeR_9351 Jan 25 '23

Not what happened either, the teacher didn't do anything, the girl lied about it (she wasn't in class that day) to her father, her father reported her lies to the local muslim community and some other guy that had nothing to do with the girl decided to kill the teacher.

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u/JT1757 Jan 25 '23

honestly, charge the daughter too. she caused the situation

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u/Suitable_Success_243 Jan 25 '23

Children lie anyway. It is the responsibility of adults to verify facts before killing a person.

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u/moveslikejaguar Jan 25 '23

Honestly I think it's the responsibility of adults to not kill a person

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u/Suitable_Success_243 Jan 26 '23

Unfortunately, there are people who will disagree with you

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u/itsmesungod Jan 25 '23

How old was the child? I’ve never heard of this story. I live in US and we have so much bullshit going on 24/7 that it’s hard to remember or see every national or international news here. I’ll have to look into this, because that’s fucking insane. Religious extremists are the worse.

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u/BV0280 Jan 25 '23

She was 13.

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u/The-Senate-Palpy Jan 25 '23

What? No. A child saying to her parent that someone showed a picture of a guy is not a crime. The dad reporting it to the community also shouldn't be charged, unless someone can prove he did it with the intent to get the teacher killed.

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u/JT1757 Jan 25 '23

she and her father should be charged as co-conspirators

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u/The-Senate-Palpy Jan 25 '23

On what grounds?

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u/UnassumingOtter33 Jan 25 '23

And the professor in the states that showed a PAINTING getting fired.

A painting that was painted by a Muslim too.

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u/marshall_lathers99 Jan 25 '23

Yes, thank you, the ‘e’ ran away from my finger 😂

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u/pagirinis Jan 25 '23

Do...do muslims have a photo of their messiah?

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u/DSIN_HA Jan 25 '23

You can find paintings of Mohammad from medieval Persia.

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u/jeandolly Jan 25 '23 edited Jan 25 '23

But if you show one of them, to lets say the students in your classroom, you'll get fired.

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/professor-terminated-art-history-paintings-muhammad-2238922

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u/RddWdd Jan 25 '23

That's absolutely insane. The fact the professor was doing it to show students the richness and variety of Islamic cultures and she still loses her job because one student took offense and doesn't want to opt out?!?

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u/Iconoclastic_Noob Jan 25 '23

The professor also warned the students on the syllabus, and in person weeks ahead of time, that they’d be showing a depiction of the “prophet” Muhammad and if anyone found it offensive or against their beliefs they were excused, without retribution, from the class. The student who complained decided to stay and participate, then somehow found it offensive anyway, complained and got the professor fired… disgusting.

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u/jeandolly Jan 25 '23

Sign of the times :-(

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u/humicroav Jan 25 '23

Feelings over facts

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u/AnxiousEarth7774 Jan 25 '23

Yes conservative religious values are definitely a sign of modern times! Engage your brain in future.

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u/Nanfort Jan 25 '23

As a french, getting fired for showing videos of their prophet is not the worse that can happen..

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u/salami350 Jan 25 '23

So in medieval times visual portrayals of Mohammad were allowed but at some point it changed? When? Why?

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u/DSIN_HA Jan 25 '23

I think it's to do with Persians being Shia. The Sunnis oppose it. People can correct me if this reasoning is wrong.

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u/pagirinis Jan 25 '23

So any depiction is off limits or just specific ones?

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u/DSIN_HA Jan 25 '23

In current times, any visual depiction is off limits. The Charlie Hebdo incident clearly indicated that they are totally intolerant.

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u/pagirinis Jan 25 '23

Well that's a weird rule, but thanks for the information.

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u/pimppapy Jan 25 '23

No. There's a singular persian depiction claiming to be of Muhammad, though the face is blank, but surrounded with what is described as Nur (holy light) emanating from the head. Kinda like a Super Saiyan.

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u/pagirinis Jan 25 '23

So is it against the Quran to show it publicly? I am not familiar with Muslim faith, so I am genuinely curious.

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u/pimppapy Jan 25 '23

Technically. The idea was that, in the 7th century; depictions, statues, sculptures, or anything that could or is supposed to resemble a living creature was used for idol worship, deviating from the worship of just one God. It was almost always the case back then.

There was a fear, that if anyone made something that would resemble the Prophet Muhammad, people would start to worship that object itself, instead of God, so Muhammad prohibited it. Muslims today will point at Catholics and say “see! They worship an image of a white skinned blue eyed Jesus nailed to a cross and yet they cannot prove that it is actually him!”. Some arguments will say: how is Jesus blue eyed and white, if he was born of Jewish decent in the Middle East. (Some go so far as to claim Jesus was black, to counter todays depictions of Jesus).

People of understanding (over the centuries), will carry no illusions about false depictions and will not fall into that trap. But those people are a minority, so it was mostly meant to protect the simple and humble masses from unknowingly committing polytheism.

Add intercultural unrest into the mix, Muslims think “if we don’t allow portraits of Muhammad within our own circles, why should we sit back and allow others, the blasphemers, to do it at their leisure? Especially when they do it with mal intent.”

Nevertheless, even with good intent, some will still go ballistic lol.

~Source, myself from a Muslim background with a dad and brother for Sheikhs.

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u/pagirinis Jan 25 '23

Man, religions are nuts. Thanks for explaining though.

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u/Firescareduser Jan 25 '23

No, as a Muslim I don't have any photos of Jesus, thanks for asking

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u/kosky95 Jan 25 '23

What a peaceful way to live. Seriously though, living like that must be extremely stressful

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u/SLAB_ROCKGROIN Jan 25 '23

Yeah especially to the people around them.

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u/throwawaybreaks Jan 25 '23

Where the hell did you get a photo of a dude who died in the seventh century?

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort Jan 25 '23

Turns out when you do something that a group very vocally tells the world is highly offensive to them, it offends them. If he was driving around yelling the N-word at black people and they got angry, that would be understandable. This really isn’t any different

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u/RaZZeR_9351 Jan 25 '23

It absolutely is different, the N word is rooted in deep racism and in the suffering of the black community during slavery, being black is not something that they decided as well, on the other hand muslims have been the oppressors of many communities, blacks being one of them, they participated in slavery and a muslim person can absolutely choose to not be muslim. Moreover why would criticising someone's religion be off limit?

You're a giant asshole for making that comparaison.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '23

Their own religion tells them how to follow their own religion. There’s absolutely zero reason people outside that religion should have to follow any of its rules. I would be within my rights right now to post a picture of Mohammed, because I’m smart enough to realize its just a fucking image and not a magical transgression against a long dead warlord who plagarized another religion to give himself legitimacy

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u/SomeRandomDavid Jan 25 '23

Pissing off Muslims is like shooting fish in a barrel.

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u/gwotmademebaby Jan 25 '23

I suggest they stop fucking their cousins.

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u/squishedehsiuqs Jan 25 '23

Yeah except those fish can fucking kill you.

I don’t get why people itt love shitting on Muslims just because they are so easy to piss off. Makes it seem like maybe they’re trying to get these insane reactions from them for content, or just to make themselves feel superior. If that’s the case, then they are equally shitty, if not worse.

If you treat people like dogs you will get bit eventually

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u/SLAB_ROCKGROIN Jan 25 '23

Burning a book isnt shitting on anybody. If your primitive brain and even more primitive ideology cant handle that you shouldnt be living in Europe.

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u/squishedehsiuqs Jan 25 '23

He did it to get a reaction and he got one. Just say you hate Muslims. It’s very on brand in Europe now.

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u/SLAB_ROCKGROIN Jan 25 '23

I hate islam for sure and id argue thats most civilized people

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u/squishedehsiuqs Jan 25 '23

civilized people dont burn Qurans for views.

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u/Day_will_Fall Jan 25 '23

I'm pretty sure a civilized person in general will not attempt a murder for a "book".

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u/squishedehsiuqs Jan 25 '23

okay i never said that wasnt. im just saying that guy did what he did cause he hates islam. there was no rationality nor an attempt to have a civilized convo. you are defending a fucking moron that got got.

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u/Quality_bullshit_ Jan 25 '23

Bro are you fucking stupid??

If you care about something and I burn / destroy it for a reaction out of you I'm being a prick for no reason.

What these people did was unprovoked and I fucking hope they learned their lesson, when did people think doing this shit was okay? Fuck about find out

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u/SLAB_ROCKGROIN Jan 25 '23

Not for no reason. Reason is to show how these lunatics treat people who insult their "holy" book. Theres no place in Europe to zealots, fuck them and their barbaric antiquated shit ideology.

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u/baconpopsicle23 Jan 25 '23

What? You make it sound like they burned something belonging to them.

There's absolutely no object you could burn on earth that should prompt that reaction from a civilized person. Anyone who reacts like that is not ok in their head and what's worse is that it gives ammunition to those that want to oppress them.

Fuck around and find out is right, those women fucked around flipping someone's car over a book and their whole community will find out about the consequences when more people start voting for far right parties because of that.

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u/zakattack799 Jan 29 '23

You think atheist is so much better than religion I swear atheism is a religion in by itself

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u/jwymes44 Jan 25 '23

Eh I’d say his intention was to show how pathetically soft religious people can be. He succeeded for sure.

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u/Action_Limp Jan 25 '23

I'd say that nothing would happen in Norway if he burned a Bible. He's specifically showing that the Muslim community there are sensitive, not the other religious groups.

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u/Torlov Jan 25 '23 edited Jan 25 '23

A popular norwegian comedian burned a bible in 2006. Some christians, and unspecified immigrants, tried to have him charged for blasphemy (an old mostly ignored law) but the charges were dropped. Nothing else happened iirc, and he is still a popular comedian.

This was during the height of the mohammed cartoons troubles.

edit: The immigrants are actually unspecified. The most reputable (large) newspaper said that "a christian group and two immigrant parents" had complained.

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u/Action_Limp Jan 25 '23

That's refreshing - and while I suspect that the majority of people are not bothered by burning a book, there are a few crazy people (like the ones in this video) who don't belong in Norwegian society.

Things never change - we've always removed those not suitable from society, either from excommunication or incarceration.

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u/viimeinen Jan 25 '23

How about in Alabama or that region of the Netherlands, Urgh or something like that?

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u/Action_Limp Jan 25 '23

Perhaps it's different there - the point the guy is making is that these people are not assimilating into Norwegian society.

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u/auntpotato Jan 25 '23

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u/SquareBusiness6951 Jan 25 '23

What did the removed comment say?

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u/oddmanout Jan 25 '23

multiple gifs of people eating popcorn and it was gilded... damn, I wish I could see what that comment was.

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u/Engorged-Rooster Jan 25 '23

Reveddit will reveal it.

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u/RKU69 Jan 25 '23

basically a blunt and general hate statement against Muslims

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u/spectatorsport101 Jan 25 '23 edited Jan 25 '23

Something similar to this “It does, [ Removed by Reddit ]fuck religion and fuck the religious zealots who would try to kill someone [ Removed by Reddit ] for their religion. I hope they live horrible lives and face the full might [ Removed by Reddit ] of the secular state [ Removed by Reddit ].”

Thats what what the comment may have said

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u/P1h3r1e3d13 Jan 25 '23

It said that Muslims and their culture are evil. 😞

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u/flywing1 Jan 25 '23

Got spicy quick

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u/dazraf Jan 25 '23 All-Seeing Upvote

All religions are dumb as fuck

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u/Get-Degerstromd Jan 25 '23 Take My Power

Some are exponentially worse than others. Unfortunately for humans, the top 2 are the worst 2.

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u/Fanfics Jan 25 '23

I mean, they got there by being terrible. That's the nature of the beast. If they can make you believe absurdities they can make you commit atrocities.

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u/Environmental-Ebb927 Jan 25 '23

Add to that, provision to use sword to make you accept their religion.

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u/i4858i Jan 25 '23

They got there by relentless killings and forced conversions

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u/esauis Jan 25 '23

Voltaire?

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u/myownzen Jan 25 '23

Gold sparkly upvote with an eyeball next to your name!

Fuck buying reddit anything

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u/ButterMyBiscuit Jan 25 '23

The worst are the top 2 BECAUSE they're the worst. How many millions over the last two millennia have been forced to convert or murdered in the name of Christianity and Islam?

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u/govinda33 Jan 25 '23

Why did you leave out Judaism?? The real reason why the other two are at each other's throat. If you're going to blast the insanity of the Abrahamic religions, you may as well start at ground zero.

The real Christ (Krishna) walked this Earth even before Abraham, Ishmael-Isaac, and Esau-Jacob. Christ is older than Abraham.

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u/ButterMyBiscuit Jan 25 '23

Because the the top 2 popular religions are Islam and Christianity and Judaism isn't even close? But yeah, fuck Judaism too, and whatever bullshit you just typed there as well.

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u/dred_pirate_redbeard Jan 25 '23

and whatever bullshit you just typed there as well.

This is some great energy 🤣

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u/govinda33 Jan 25 '23

And your rabid mental state too.

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u/Glassgank Jan 25 '23

It’s ok to openly dislike religion. I suggest you try it. Do it at work, do it with friends, do it with family. Do it in public by burning a book, see what real rabid people look like when they flip your car over….. because of a book.

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u/sY20 Jan 25 '23

Bhai u gonna say Laxmi is Oprah next?

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u/govinda33 Jan 25 '23

Why would I say that? Oprah is trash.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '23

Top 3 All from the same guy Abraham 😂

I'll take my native heathenism over this shit and day

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u/ctrlaltcreate Jan 25 '23

Every religion has been used as a cudgel. People have killed in the name of buddhism ffs.

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u/sdomscitilopdaehtihs Jan 25 '23

the top 2 are the worst 2

Scientology is the 2nd most popular religion?!

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u/vidieowiz4 Jan 25 '23

I am no fan of Christianity or Islam but calling them worst is quite a stretch when there have been some pretty nasty religions that I could imagine being so much worse when scaled to the level of population that those two are now.

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u/MalekithofAngmar Jan 25 '23

Lmao, no. We could believe in the Aztec religion, that would definitely be worse than Islam or Christianity.

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u/vidieowiz4 Jan 25 '23

Idk why you got down voted bombed, the Aztecs did some pretty brutal rituals which if scaled to the level of population Christianity and Islam have today would be horrific. I'm no fan of any religion but it's a big stretch to call those twp the worst

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u/Clown_Crunch Jan 25 '23

Idk why you got down voted bombed

Because reddit circlejerk.

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u/MalekithofAngmar Jan 25 '23

Nah bro, Christianity is literally worse than ritualized human sacrifice dumbass.

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u/dazraf Jan 25 '23

I think you are missing the point. It’s not the religions that are bad - it is the individual people who are.

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u/Get-Degerstromd Jan 25 '23

You realize the people that perpetuate said religion do so because they believe in it right? So are they just inherently bad? Or were they taught bad lessons by the religion that teaches them to hate anyone who isn’t like them?

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u/dazraf Jan 25 '23

I would say that the most extreme ones are the loudest. There are a billion Muslims in the world, I’m sure you may even know a few. I doubt 99.9% of them would flip a car in reaction to a book being burned

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u/opiumized Jan 25 '23

Not really. Terrible people made up a terrible religion that terrible people follow.

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u/dazraf Jan 25 '23

I don’t even believe in god, but I believe largely that most people are well-intentioned regardless of religion… wish I could be enlightened like you

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u/send_steam_keys_pls Jan 25 '23

That only makes the point that religion is what brings out the bad in people even stronger. -_-

People have good intentions, but sometimes those good intentions come from the magic books and they are, well, not-so-good intentions.

I am more than sure that Taliban members or Mormons or JWs or Christians or Hindus are perfectly well intended. Sadly, some stuff which they are taught to be good is actually awful.

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u/jkbpttrsn Jan 25 '23

Nah. Christians/Muslims have just willfully ignored all the violent, horrible shit in the Bible. They cherry-pick the good stuff but collectively ignore the sexist, homophobic, violent verses that don't fit with their "peaceful religions." What we don't talk about is the fact that a lot of society's biggest problems came from the worst parts of those books that they ignore. I remember the days conservatives quoted verses that were extremely sexist and homophobic to justify their beliefs and political decisions.

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u/dazraf Jan 25 '23

Do you think every single Christian and Muslim believe every facet of what an ancient book says?

You can make the same arguments about any religion. The Torah calls for genocide and homophobia. (Judaism in case you didn’t know) https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2015-10-01/ty-article/.premium/why-should-jews-extol-a-torah-with-moral-flaws/0000017f-e5e1-dea7-adff-f5fb3b7e0000

Hinduism creates a caste system that still dictates how much of India lives today.

Buddhism is homophobic as well. The Dalai Lama himself said that being gay is wrong for Buddhists.

You can tear down any religion with ease. It’s the individuals who follow the religion who choose which aspects to embrace

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u/jkbpttrsn Jan 25 '23

None of this contradicts my original comment?

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u/dazraf Jan 25 '23

Sorry, thought you were capable of connecting the dots, but I guess not.

You can tear down almost any religion based on their texts.

84% of people in the world identify with a religious group.

If everyone who is has a religion is a terrible human, than you are right.

If not, than you are wrong.

I’ll let you decide.

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u/jkbpttrsn Jan 25 '23

All religions justify terrible shit and anyone good AND religious it's despite the religion, not because of it.

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u/BlasterBilly Jan 25 '23

No. Religions are awful creations. Responsible for more suffering than any other man made means.

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u/vidieowiz4 Jan 25 '23

I am not fan of Christianity or Islam but it's a bit of a stretch to call them the worst religions. There have been some pretty nasty religions in history.

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u/Goatdealer Jan 25 '23

I've never seen a Muslim burn a Bible but I've seen plenty of Christians burn Qurans. You are right some religions are so much worse.

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u/Euronomus Jan 25 '23

Why would Muslims burn a book they believe in?

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u/Goatdealer Jan 25 '23

Muslims believe in Jesus but also believe the Bible was made up. Which it was 300 years after the death of Jesus.

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u/smolpp12345 Jan 25 '23

I've never seen a Muslim burn a Bible

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32828330

They prefer lynching and beheading.

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u/Goatdealer Jan 25 '23

By the same twisted logic Christians prefer concentration camps, gas chambers, and ethic cleansing. Since they were all invented by Christians.

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u/IAMTHATGUY03 Jan 25 '23

The top ones are the worst because they are the top. Do you seriously think people wouldn’t turn Mormonism or Scientology into just as unhinged? The worst religions seem like the major ones because they have the most people, so you’re more likely to have them maliciously interpreted because of the large swath of people. Imagine how many multi wife rapist you’d have if a billion people were Mormons or how many enslaved on the sea people if everyone was Scientologist. Power pushes religion to the limits of human horror.

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u/Railroad_Riley Jan 25 '23

Not my religion "the cult of crab". Everything will eventually evolve to crab snip snip

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u/The_Suffix Jan 25 '23

It is incredible that any critique of Islam is immediately followed every single time by someone saying this exact phrase every. single. time. Without fail.

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u/dazraf Jan 25 '23

I’ll say it anytime religion is mentioned, Islam or not

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u/Much-Wall7931 Jan 25 '23

Probably so that other religious people don't feel superior. They're all brainwashed and indoctrinated in their own way and all of them are pointless wastes of time and resources.

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u/Gushinggrannies4u Jan 25 '23

Redditors gonna Reddit lmao

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u/trekie4747 Jan 25 '23

All hail the mighty Reddit!

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u/Biff_Wesker Jan 25 '23

Religion is for weak minded people who can't comprehend not existing after death. Oh sweet sweet oblivion

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u/marshall_lathers99 Jan 25 '23

You’re getting downvoted by the religious 😂

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u/kkeut Jan 25 '23

but some are better than others. ain't nobody getting assaulted by any Jains

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u/SoulWager Jan 25 '23

Jains do some fucked up shit too though, like make animals suffer through rabies rather than putting them out of their misery.

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u/x_x_x_x_x Jan 25 '23

If that's the most fucked up thing Jains do, I'd say they are 1000 times better than the ones who routinely behead people for drawing their prophet.

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u/SoulWager Jan 25 '23

Not saying that's the worst thing they do. I don't exactly get a lot of news about Jainism, probably because they're only about 1/2000 of the world population, and the vast majority of that population is on the other side of the planet.

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u/account_for_norm Jan 25 '23

All religious ppl who think others need to respect their religion at any capacity are dumb as fuck.

I ve met plenty of religious ppl who keep it to themselves.

I like the ppl above that - they are so sevure, they dont need no religion to feel secure.

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u/KakkaKarrot Jan 25 '23 edited Jan 25 '23

Yeah obviously they're all dumb. But lets be honest, between Buddhism and Islam...which one is gonna chop your head off because of your belief in women's rights?

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u/dazraf Jan 25 '23

You do know there is an active genocide right now in Myanmar perpetrated by a Buddhist government against Muslims…right? I assume you didn’t

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u/burntends97 Jan 25 '23

Reddit moment

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u/Magikarpeles Jan 25 '23

Buddhism is aait

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u/famous__shoes Jan 25 '23

Exactly. In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because I am enlightened by my intelligence.

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u/RoxyRoyalty Jan 25 '23

i can’t believe it’s been 10 years since that shit loool

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u/Marcusafrenz Jan 25 '23

Holup, let him cook.

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u/Careful_Photograph86 Jan 25 '23

No it is not. I would advise you to go to do some more research on the religion.

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u/indigofire1o8 Jan 25 '23 edited Jan 25 '23

You're gross. Edit: didn't know there were so many Islamophobes in this sub. Yikes.

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u/thumbelina1234 Jan 25 '23

And what about fanatical christians? They are all the same, trying to force their beliefs on others.

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u/Azhaius Jan 25 '23

fanatical christians in the west are more about enforcing their will via legislation rather than beheading teachers for showing a fucking picture

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u/thumbelina1234 Jan 25 '23

Well now they don't, but they used to, a lot, heard about inquisition and killing out entire nations? Muslem religion is just younger, so they are doing the same things christians did in the past. All religions are all about brainwashing and control

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u/stargate-command Jan 25 '23

Perhaps his intention was to show that Muslims are violent and insane? That would also be a success.

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u/WickedXDragons Jan 25 '23

Doesn’t take a whole lot. Softest people in the world

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u/BanBanEvasion Jan 25 '23

While you’re not wrong, you’re.. well kinda wrong.

Burning is the proper way to dispose of the Quran according to Islamic teachings. Muslims shouldn’t be pissed off, because he was actually doing exactly what they (in theory) want him to do.

So he definitely pissed someone off, but I’d say they should actually read the book before almost killing someone over it.

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u/JackRabbit- Jan 25 '23

You're pretty sweet if you think anyone from an organised religion has actually read their holy text

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u/Firescareduser Jan 25 '23

For islam I would say that doesn't apply because you basically have to read it, it's not like Christianity where a priest can (as far as I know) tell how what to do, basically everyone reads the text and a quarter have it memorised cover to cover letter for letter

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u/Cyclone_96 Jan 25 '23

Yes, you’re right. However you’re missing that maybe 90% of those people understand no letter of what they’re reading, because they’re encouraged, or in my case, forced to read it in a language they don’t understand.

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u/Firescareduser Jan 25 '23

No, you are not encouraged to read it in Arabic, you are encouraged to memorise it in Arabic, you read the appropriate translation, plus lots of Muslims speak Arabic, often as a second language

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u/Cyclone_96 Jan 25 '23

No, you are not encouraged to read it in Arabic,

Factually untrue. You get more “reward” for reading it in Arabic, and all other languages are just considered interpretations, so you won’t receive the same award for understanding it.

lots of Muslims speak Arabic, often as a second language

Yeah, I can admit 90% is probably exaggerating a bit, but I don’t think it’s exaggerating to say the majority of Muslims don’t understand what they’re reading when they’re made to read the Quran.

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u/Firescareduser Jan 25 '23

Actually, what overrides this is that you get more rewards for reading the quran and understanding it, which is the highest level, so reading a translation first is practically a must

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u/InsomniacHitman Jan 25 '23

I feel like I've seen somewhere that burning the Quran is actually an accepted way of disposing of it. Is anyone here versed in the art of holy book disposal?

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u/dazraf Jan 25 '23

If you are going around intentionally agitating people, you are eventually going to run into the wrong one

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '23

The funny part is it not offending the people who actually practice their religion and only the extremists. Burning the Quran is the right way to dispose of it.

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u/Firescareduser Jan 25 '23

Well that is brand new, people burn it to avoid it ripping apart or destroyed in some other way. It's not common practice to go out, buy a Quran, and burn it

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '23

From a Muslim perspective you are absolutely right. You wouldn't really go buy one just to dispose of it, but when it comes to someone doing it to spread hate I don't think it's as bad as it can be. Do I think of it as a show of hatred against my faith, sure. Do I think it warrants hostile action, nah.

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u/miodoktor Jan 25 '23

That is all nice and dandy until you realize that they are importing those crazy people. It needs to stop and they should be deported.

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u/GolfandPoker Jan 25 '23

It’s usually easy to influence the dumb. Whether that means you’re trying to upset them or make them agree with your dumb religion.

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u/coleisawesome3 Jan 25 '23

If you can get that pissed off that easily, you deserve to get trolled