r/amcstock • u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands • Feb 06 '23
Downvote me all u want but y’all have to stop posting about manipulated halts. Nothing about AMCs halt today was abnormal. It makes this subreddit look dumb. Discussion 🗣
I don’t care if I get up arrows or down. But please learn about halts. (Coming from a professional day trader). I don’t want others to come to our sub and think our thesis is invalid after seeing all the “halt manipulation” and people not understanding the markets. Have a nice week.
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u/comeflywithme2tm Feb 06 '23
The halt was normal. The 1 Million shares naked shorted during the halt was not....
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u/Hodlthesqueeze Feb 06 '23
No one is mad over the AMC halt, they are mad at the timing and occurrence in congruence with the BBBY halt… only BBBY flew past their halt levels when AMC didn’t. Just sour grapes… and maybe a little manipulation in an attempt to get paperhands to fold and hop over to the dying bedsheet company.
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u/Deep-Acanthisitta-86 Feb 07 '23
They also didn't get a halt until they were 88% up weird right
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Once u learn how halts work, not weird
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u/Deep-Acanthisitta-86 Feb 07 '23
So that one where they halted it at at a 0.3% move up was legit I don't think so
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u/Fun_Company4251 Feb 07 '23
Oh you expected bbbys halt and then it dropping dramatically while losing all its gains?
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
I can usually tell if it’s a strong halt up or weak halt up before the halt. That let’s me know if it’s worth keeping shares or selling some or all. AMC I always just hold
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u/Nmjans2 Feb 07 '23
They don’t get much stronger than what AMC did today. Where did all of the short shares come from after the halt. I know no apes are selling.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
They get much stronger. A strong halt, the bid stacks up thousands and thousands of shares immediately. Today it did not with AMC
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
There are tons of day traders that trade AMC. I hold, even check YouTube u can find people trading like 50 k shares at a time
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Check out some of the famous YouTube ppl like humbletrader on YouTube. U can see live trades of AMC. She trades huge shares long and short
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u/VAX1S Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
In that 88% rise was there a period where it rose 10% in 5 minutes or less?
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u/Deep-Acanthisitta-86 Feb 07 '23
To be honest I don't really follow follow that stock that much I think it's a pump and dump so that they can distract Us by chasing money
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u/AMC-Apes-Together Diamond Hands Feb 06 '23
Ive tried to tell them numerous times, good luck.
There is plenty of crime going on, just stick to the facts. A luld pause is built into the system, no one is triggering just AMC.
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u/Pestelence2020 Feb 07 '23
But it was categorized as M not luld. M is for market volatility.
You want to talk fax. Kden
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u/AMC-Apes-Together Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
https://www.nyse.com/trade-halt-historical
February 6th, 2023 3:28 - AMC halted due to a LULD Pause.
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u/the_super_unknown 8.01 Feb 06 '23
Many of us know what halts are but if you use basic logic they were put into place far before the meme stock era arrived. Why is this relevant? Previously they were created to calm volatility and "protect" investors, especially on the down side.
With meme stocks now common, they kill retails momentum and allow hedge fucks to slam us with short positions all at once while we cannot buy and work blind. Halts are a tool of the establishment not our friend. I'm am 8.01 ape, claiming we "look dumb" by questioning halts and their lack of benefit is dumb in itself. We are in a new era. 🔥
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Not dumb to question the validity of halts. But when people think it’s crime and manipulation and different than other stocks when not, it looks dumb
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u/XteaK 🚀I OWN AMC🌕 Feb 07 '23
If you think $AMC is being treated fairly by the market makers and after a volatility halts, then you are the one that looks dumb... this whole sub is 100% about market unfairness and crime against $AMC..
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
That’s why I’m in AMC. But to blame it on normal market mechanics makes u look dumb
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Not u, us as a group
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u/XteaK 🚀I OWN AMC🌕 Feb 07 '23
You know Apes aren't complaining about the halt itself, come on APE, give them a little more credit... the fact that we've been getting fucked every-time they halted $AMC after January 2021 is the reason why they complaint about the halts, even though is not the halts but what happens during and after.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Not the comments I see. I get angry about the manipulation of price action too, but to blame it on halts which is how their verbiage is used makes the sub Reddit look dumb. All it takes is 30 mins of research to learn how they work and see examples of everyday stocks being halted in the same way. The naked shorting and such, crime. Halts, normal market mechanics.
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u/Organic-Tomatillo-92 Feb 07 '23
So, you don't find it even remotely suspicious that entities in charge of order flow and making markets (that also have massive positions in $AMC) also have members on the committee for making halt decisions?
As you've mentioned, I don't think anyone is questioning the halt in all instances, but where else does it happen (consistently) only to have sell volume of almost 6mm in 30 minutes immediately following?
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
I know there is tons of shenanigans happening. I’m just saying it’s not the halts. And if people savvy on the market come here they will disregard what we say
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
It’s actually more rare for a stock to keep ripping up. When u get special occasions it is great to be in those positions that keep squeezing up. But literally everyday I do this and most fail afterwards.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Everyday there are stocks that rip up and then halt, and then die out. Much bigger than today with AMC. Everyday. Day traders move to the next momentum when that happens. Most people just never see them because they never make the news
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u/Organic-Tomatillo-92 Feb 07 '23
No comment on who actually sits on the board and that there may be a slight conflict of interest?
I mean, you are in agreement that your argument makes sense for normal stocks, but this is not a normal ticker, yes?
I don't really care either way, one day, something will break and this shit will blast off, but you can't come here and say it's completely normal. Care to enlighten how it got off the regsho last time too, on the 12th day? They ever deliver those FTDs?
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u/CashDifficult9956 Feb 07 '23
What are the normal mechanics of halts in the stock market? Is there a specific number it needs to hit before a halt?
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Also they continuously update. Kinda like a window that always moves based on percentages and time.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Yes and they are visible to everyone at all times
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u/CashDifficult9956 Feb 07 '23
So what is it? I mean I kind get what you’re saying, but to say it’s clear is just not true. Using some of the recent moves on APE during launch made no sense. It was halted several times during small price moves. HKD is another example of normal mechanics? Where was the halts for the moves it was making? From $12 up to $2500 in a short span? Where was the normal mechanics there?
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u/XteaK 🚀I OWN AMC🌕 Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
Nothing is wrong about HALTS, is the crime happening behind the halts. How the hell you explain a stock shooting up triggering a raise volatility halt, and as soon it comes back live, it's naked shorted down again. That's is illegal manipulation by the MM and the SEC allowing it.
For example. $HKD was halted multiple times on the way up between July and August 2nd, 2022 their stock price moved upwards from $57 to $1679 without a hitch. AMC on the other hand, is too dangerous to let them go up... so crime takes control of the outcome.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
What happens after the halts may be crime, but the halt alone is what people mention.
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u/XteaK 🚀I OWN AMC🌕 Feb 07 '23
Because this isn't the first time they do it, every time $AMC gets halted on the way up, it gets shorted back down as soon as it starts again, killing any momentum and FOMO in a second.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
That’s usually how halts work unless the price action is strong enough to stop the fomo killing.
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u/XteaK 🚀I OWN AMC🌕 Feb 07 '23
I was here watching my monitor when $AMC hit $72, was halted many times on it's way up... nothing like you see now. And let me remind every one that thinks like you, $AMC was in a much worse position as a company back then , than what we have now.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Yes, nothing like it is now. Not do to the halts tho
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u/DAN_ikigai 🚀I OWN AMC🌕 Feb 07 '23
As you can see most people here know what a halt and how it works. No one is complaining directly about how a halt works. Everyfktime in the past when we are about to have a run up halts came in and killed the momentum.
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u/trueVenett Feb 07 '23
of course we are talking about crime behind halt, not sure how naive you can be if you think halt for some stocks is natural~
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u/1stLadyofSnark Feb 06 '23
No arguments from me. Half the people in this sub do not understand how/why halts get triggered; and they do make this sub look dumb.
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u/dads2vette Feb 07 '23
"Nothing about AMCs halt today was abnormal. It makes this subreddit look dumb."
Say it's normal, call folks dumb yet don't tell them how it's normal. Why teach folks when you can call them dumb...well done as a "professional".
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u/sweetwonton Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
cheat codes ...government, bank, sec, finra helping hedges. Game is rigged like carnival game. When they start losing, they change the rules. We are playing the long game. They lose when they out of monies. The way we win is if we bankrupt all of them. Rules don't matter if they can't afford rent.
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u/Jrlutz31 Feb 06 '23
Why didn't bbby have halts when it was up 10% at two different points within a few mins? Only seems to halt right before AMC did
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 06 '23
Watch the halt levels. The halt levels continuously Change. People trade based on the halt levels too.
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u/xh1pp0x Feb 07 '23
Maybe, "as a professional", you could educate people, rather than put them down... (you are already posting)
There are a lot of excited people here! I welcome thier enthusiasm/excitement. I can't explain any of this to anyone. I just believe in a company and support it the best I can.
Cheers!
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
I also want new people to come here and think the top comments and posts are credible
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u/Dotty_Pistoff Feb 07 '23
Would like to see a comparison of AMC halts vs other stocks.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
It halted like every other stock I trade daily. I just don’t sell when I buy it
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u/Deep-Acanthisitta-86 Feb 07 '23
What about the one that happened before today that happened within .3% was that one legal too no they're purposely stopping it BBBy can run up 88% before a halt but we barely get off the ground and we get halted then shorted back down hard there is something to that and you can't deny it just cuz you can't see the manipulation doesn't mean it's not there
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u/Deep-Acanthisitta-86 Feb 07 '23
See you can imagine all the crime going on and all the sneaking manipulated things that they do but you can't even fathom the fact that they can control halts how could they not it's super easy for them to do so that glitch in The Matrix on that point 3% up ticket at halts that was them just testing their control over it.
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u/thesixburghkid Feb 07 '23
Here's the solution when they halt, buy shares, hold said shares. Anytime I feel something is a miss I buy more because I've done the DD and I know what I hold.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
I don’t disagree with that. I bought 800 more AMC. 2500 more APE
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u/bnutbutter78 Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Agreed. We’ve seen massive fuckery over the years, today was not that.
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u/mingj4i Feb 07 '23
Didn't bbby only get halted at about 100% gains? But amc halted at like 22%. I thought thst was strange
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Happens all the time. It depends on the halt lvls. Also the halt lvl has to stay at the lvl for 15 seconds or it refreshes. So a stock can go crazy high and still not halt. But if it’s strong enough it will halt
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u/ApprehensiveCake8927 Feb 07 '23
So the stock is rising fast and it halts because of the 10% braker is triggered we get that , but why does it come down crashing right after it resume trading? .......no manipulation my ass.
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u/thesixburghkid Feb 07 '23
Professional day trader(with no proof)= trust me bro
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Y would u need proof that I’m a day trader?
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u/thesixburghkid Feb 07 '23
I don't, but what professional day traders are long AMC? I'm talking pro like you don't have another job and rely solely on your trading income. You did say pro, and losing money doesn't make you a pro.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
I make money and buy AMC with profits. I also make money for fun and leisure and normal life
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Professional as in that’s my job and only source of income to provide for my family
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u/EZDUZIT_67 Feb 07 '23
Yet you failed to educate those who call it manipulation !!!! Nice post from a pro. 🤣
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Lol I’m not ur teacher, but I can still let people know misinformation and they should research it.
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u/diamondzRforever Feb 07 '23
Totally, respectfully disagree with this post. It’s very obvious what happens during OUR halts specifically. These halts are designed to ‘cool off’ pressure either way, our halts just so happen to coincide with specific price points, then dove off a cliff under said price point.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Specific price points attract more buyers. Not everyone is an ape. Lots of people are just momentum traders. And will trade whatever has momentum
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u/nickM_Mathias1 Feb 07 '23
So why did it get halted, Professional Day Trader Captain Sir????
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
The same reason all stocks get halted when they reach the halt levels that everyone can see before it halts…
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u/Grace_Lannister Feb 07 '23
It makes this subreddit look dumb.
Don't worry, there are many other posts here that have the same affect.
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u/MK2Hell_Burner Feb 07 '23
Yep, the sell until 1 million is just as dumb if not worse.
Only mentally challenged people here actually believe others will hold when AMC goes to $500, $5000, $50000 and won’t sell until 1 million.
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u/Hideous_hyide Feb 07 '23
Naw bro I watched bbby hit 100 percent and I didn't see a single halt until after they halted amc at 15percent.
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
Halt levels continuously update. All u gotta do is search luld halts on YouTube or Google. I’ll find a good link if u want
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u/YeoEuiJu Diamond Hands Feb 07 '23
That’s not how halts work. I was watching the halt levels of both. U can see the halt levels at anytime. Once they cross that number it halts
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u/Hideous_hyide Feb 07 '23
So you're saying something can fly 100 percent no halt but another can't go 15 and you think there's no manipulation involved 😐
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u/Clsrk979 Feb 07 '23
Halts were installed in order to maximize manipulation! I don’t see it any other way! Prove Me wrong
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u/RickGrimesz 8.01 Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
ONLY HALT Iever questioned was in March-April 2021 where AMC hit $14 from 9-$11 range up and down weekly. GameStop - $337/345 (forgot which)
Halts are nothing but computer needs to catch up to buy or sell pressure 10% increases. A SHORT RESTRICTION (SSR) is different. Not all halts are bad!
In one second. In one blink amc hit $14 crashing to $9.00 or so ending next day at $8. (I’ve never seen increases turn to sickness I had amc as my castle moat, or wall. Cheap profits. New to stocks GME I got at $335 seeing hit $400 or so and bottom to $210 or less from unCertain but close memory) I felt sick!!
I thought MOASS incoming! Holy crap! (So set fail Safes to avoid this sh*t again!!!)
All I knew was at $8 a share, new to stocks as of a January bag holder I I was seeing $10-12 daily fluctuations and knew to load up! I mean +2-$4 a share? whether shares continued $10 resistance tests as they were or hit $12-$14 which was very nice. Always mean and green. (I didn’t sell at $71! I think I sold 5? At 50 range for a new car battery from necessity, have loaded and held more. No regrets. This is all unprovoked pressure just wait until the top goes off!!!))
Sh*t was an insane test of of your balls tightness (and our settings on our apps) Stop loss percentages. It was a massive investigation through algorithm to our metal.
If amc hit $20 tomorrow. Ape hit $12(And bottomed to AMC at $5. Ape at $1.50) how many of you would have had stop loss automated sales take over to miss a spike to $71 a month later?
Smarten up
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u/Clayton_bezz Feb 07 '23
It’s halted about 15 times in the last 12 months, each time it’s arrested momentum. That’s not normal.
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u/sk8itup53 🚀I OWN AMC🌕 Feb 07 '23
OP's history doesn't add up to a "professional day trader". First time ever typing this...
SHILL
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u/Quiet_Shock5817 Feb 07 '23
Lmao most apes here shit crayons then proceed to eat them right away. They also fling shit and stuff all day. Just because some of the shot is being thrown at the right place doesn’t make anyone here smart, me included
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u/Manu09 Smooth Brain Feb 07 '23
Also, please keep in mind that not every tweet is an encrypted message. We all know what the outcome will be in the end, let's just enjoy the ride.
We know our goal, we read the DD. Be Zen.
It gets old seeing: "A Man in New Zealand sells a potato - Cohencidence? I think not!"
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u/hustlersambition9 Feb 07 '23
AMC halts are manipulated.
The halts are not illegal, but CRIME is occurring during the fucking halts.
If the fucking SEC, NYSE , Market Makers and Hedge Funds are not all colluding AMC should be moving exactly like HKD, which went from. $14 to $2,555.
Wake up.
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u/BigRich1888 Feb 07 '23
Have we ever been concerned about looking dumb? We are dumb, and we pride ourselves in it. That, my friend, is how America works lol
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u/adamlgee Feb 07 '23
I think it’s more there are other stocks that aren’t seeming to get the same standard halts. If anything they’re letting those run like they are to get people to bail over
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u/CashDifficult9956 Feb 07 '23
HKD went from $12 to $2500, where were the halts? That seems way more volatile than AMC but way less halts…
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u/Buy_hold_WS_will Feb 07 '23
I upvoted you, but I have to say it’s irrelevant how we look. We’re all holding and MOASS will happen.
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u/paukem 🗓1/28/21 Ape Nation Remembers🛡 Feb 07 '23
We are dumb.... and we don't understand the markets... I just know buy and hold.
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u/surgio154 Feb 07 '23
Halts are part of the corruption , like the Dark Pools and the ability to borrow shares and sell them then return the shares , the whole system is one huge con and so is your comment about halts
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u/Complex_Commission96 SilverBACK Feb 07 '23
It is illegal because I have a video of the volume increasing after the halt… is the halt only for retail?
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u/Prestigious_View_211 Feb 08 '23
I think it's the select enforcement of the rules on the market that has people in uproar.
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u/Monster_Dick69_ Feb 08 '23
the sub has been like this for a while. A bunch of people who jumped in at the peak and expect quick returns ASAP because they saw a post that sperged out about 500k per share being possible.
Any halt = manipulation and crime
any criticism of AMC and their choices = shill bot who is conspiring against us.
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u/Sportsfun4all Feb 07 '23
So why don’t they halt during after hours? F rigged bs
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u/poncharelli66 Feb 06 '23
Just because they’re legal doesn’t make them right.