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u/Abdrews-PaulIM Jan 10 '23 edited Jan 10 '23
Does Legolas grab a shield and ride it down the stairs like a skateboard while shooting orcs in the battle at helms deep?
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
He wasn't described as doing so ever, but he wasn't the main focus of the Battle of Helm's Deep, so technically, it's possible that he might have, I guess.
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u/themessiah234 Jan 10 '23
I, too, was not the main focus of the battle of helms deep, what was I doing?
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u/_I_must_be_new_here_ Jan 10 '23
My guy, you were stood on the wall, directly above the drain that they blew up
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u/Pantssassin Jan 10 '23
Jokes on you, I was the drain that they blew up
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u/rihim23 Human Jan 10 '23
"A guy stands on top of a drain and gets blown up and you think that of me? No. I am the one who blows up!"
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u/HandicapperGeneral Jan 10 '23
Eating cheetos in your underwear, watching lotree for the seventeenth time this year.
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u/Revangelion Jan 10 '23
You were riding a bow, using an arrow to shoot shields at orcs on top of the orc army.
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u/legolas_bot Jan 10 '23
Why would that make you happy?
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u/bananasaucecer Jan 10 '23
Legolas
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u/MrC99 Jan 10 '23
You clearly skipped over the paragraph where Tolkien describes Legolas doing a 360 noscope off the top of the hornberg. You call yourself a fan? Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth!
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u/QuabityAsuance Jan 10 '23
Did Tolkien have The Lord of the Rings fleshed out by the time he wrote The Hobbit?
Or was Bilboâs magic ring retroactively turned into The One Ring for the sake of the sequel?
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u/Slapppz Jan 10 '23
Im pretty sure thereâs original copies of the Hobbit before LOTR, where there is nothing special about the ring other than invisibility and gollum liking it. He went back and edited the Hobbit to make the ring more mystical, or something like that
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u/gollum_botses Jan 10 '23
We are famisshed, yes famisshed we are. precious. What is it they eats? Have they nice fisshes?
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u/therealsandyleon Jan 10 '23
Yep, originally it was just a magic ring that made burglary easier for Bilbo. Gollum isnât nearly asâŠGollumish⊠and gives Bilbo the ring as a reward for beating him in the riddles contest. Some other small changes too, but those are the big ones
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u/Solitarypilot Jan 10 '23
I can answer this one, and itâs much more on the side of your second offering. Originally it was just a magic ring that made the wearer invisible, and that was all. This can actually be seen even clearer in the first publication of The Hobbit; Gollum isnât as nasty at first. He isnât so obsessed over the ring, and when he looses the riddle game and goes to fetch the ring to give to Bilbo, Gollum really does intend to hand it over. However after finding it gone, Gollum is entirely distraught and extremely apologetic, as he doesnât want Bilbo to think that he was lying and never had the ring. After offering instead to catch Bilbo fish, a deal is made that Gollum will simply show Bilbo the way out, and the two exchange goodbyes before Bilbo continues on his way to meet up with the rest of the company.
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u/bilbo_bot Jan 10 '23
I do believe you made that up.
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u/LilJohnDee Jan 10 '23
I cant confirm if the entire story itself is accurate but in general yes... Can confirm the ring and gollum were changed a bit by the story of LOTR. Although it was worked in as Bilbo's retelling / what actually happened... Im not sure which is which and i think thats the intention
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u/LilJohnDee Jan 10 '23
The bots got me lololol
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u/Fairlyn Jan 10 '23
To be fair, the bot gave a really good reply to your comment, I had to check if it was really a bot :D
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u/Bilbo_hraaaaah_bot Jan 10 '23
HRAAAAAH!
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u/beezchurger94 Jan 10 '23
Why do youtube ads seem to double around holidays?
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u/Mr_Inflatable_Man Jan 10 '23
I can actually answer this. Itâs due to cost of delivering that ad to you is much cheaper over the holiday period (CPMs is the term) and also because people are more likely to be on their devices over this period that itâs more cost effective and they would see better engagement due to volume.
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u/robber_goosy Jan 10 '23
How was Ar-Pharazon able to reach Valinor? Shouldnt the enchanted isles have stopped his fleet?
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u/ItsABiscuit Jan 10 '23 edited Jan 10 '23
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u/dramatic_effects Jan 10 '23
I'm sorry if this seems rude but it would be "The Valar." My mind is very annoying about grammar sometimes.
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Do you like his other books?
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
Yes, they're all extremely good. Although some of the History of Middle Earth isn't really stories, but more notes and information on Arda.
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u/The_Enderclops Jan 10 '23
have you read his non-middle earth books? are they good?
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
Yes, I've read all of them that exist to my knowledge. All of them are very interesting and quite good. I'd definitely recommend.
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u/ozzalot Jan 10 '23
Is it true that the Legolas shield/skateboard scene was even cooler in the books?
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
No, it actually wasn't even mentioned in the book. Since Legolas wasn't focused on the whole time, there is the possibility that it happened but wasn't written about, though.
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u/The_Doctor_Eats_Neep Jan 10 '23
Ahh you clearly didn't read the hidden line between the line. You have to read on the last light of Gollums day and then the moon shines on the hidden line. For those uninformed it says "And then legolas jumped on a shield like the motha fuckin badass that he is and surfed down the stairs, killing at least 5 orcs in the process"
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u/slasher1o5 Jan 10 '23
What question would you ask Stephen Colbert to stump him? (And what's the answer)
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
Who are the Valarindi and name one.
Answer: In a very early version of the Legendarium, the Valarindi are the children of the Valar. The children of Manwe and Varda were Erinti and Fionwe.
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u/Sir_Dix-a-lot Jan 10 '23
My stump question for Colbert would be: Who is the only elf ever to have grown a beard? Iâd be delighted if you could answer without looking it up :)
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u/Alrik_Immerda Jan 10 '23
There are actually two, Cirdan the Shipwright and some father with F (I know how little this narrows it down, but I may not look it up)
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u/Sir_Dix-a-lot Jan 10 '23
You may have stumped me as well. I only know of Cirdan being the elf who was aged so long through suffering that he reached a late maturity and grew a beard. Is there another or is that a trick question? I permit you to look it up now because I do not know.
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u/Alrik_Immerda Jan 10 '23
https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Mahtan
My bad, it was M, not F. Mahtan was the father in law of Feanor and his teacher (this didn't work out well). And despite being way too young for a beard, he had one.
Normally Elves grow a beard in their third cycle, while he was in his second cycle. This implies that there are more Elves with beards, but we know only of this two Elves.
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u/Sir_Dix-a-lot Jan 10 '23
I donât think that this implies other elves also couldâve grown beards earlier as the text says he was an exception. Still it is curious.
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u/Alrik_Immerda Jan 10 '23
Oh, my bad. I meant: "the fact that Elves in their third cycle are able to grow a beard implies that there are more bearded Elves."
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u/wachagondo Jan 10 '23
I feel like Cirdan is pretty common knowledge though no? That seems like a pretty base question for someone with Colbertâs wealth knowledge to answer.
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u/brown_House36 Jan 10 '23
Favorite song from The Eagles?
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u/SilverlightLantern Jan 10 '23
Welcome to the Prancing Pony
Such a lovely place (such a lovely place)
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u/FreePhilosopher256 Uruk-hai Jan 10 '23
Hide in your room from the nine Black riders! Any time of year, (any time of year), They won't find you here.
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u/Ok_Significance9304 Jan 10 '23
They stab it with their steely knives But you fool no man can kill me.
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
I don't know who they are, sorry.
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u/drearbruh Jan 10 '23
Get out of my cab!
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u/my_fellow_earthicans Jan 10 '23
This feels familiar but I can't place why E: ref to Lebowski?
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u/socialist_steve_ Jan 10 '23
What happens in "The Adventures Of Tom Bombadil"?
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u/FelagundOfTheNarog Jan 10 '23
He gets kidnapped by badger-folk I think
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u/PosterBlankenstein Jan 10 '23
I take this as a snub against Badgers, but I would like to remind you that Badgerâs wisdom and steady hand were greatly instrumental in Toadâs reclamation of Toad Hall from the weasels.
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u/FelagundOfTheNarog Jan 10 '23
That was a single badger. I will remind you that multiple were involved in the abduction of Tom Bombadil. And I will remind you also that badgers have also been seen playing around irresponsibly with mashed potato as many times as they reclaimed houses from weasels.
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u/Federal_Sector_3920 Jan 10 '23
Where is it, precious?
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u/WinterOf98 Jan 10 '23
Where was Elrond 3,000 years ago?
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u/theglockatrice Jan 10 '23
Who is gil-galad's gil-gaDad?
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u/Thramuril Jan 10 '23
Fingon, the son of Fingolfin, who died in a 1v1 with Morgoth that forever wounded him. Who himself was the son of Finwe, original High King of the Noldor.
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u/mdkid14 Jan 10 '23
Where do Hobbits go when they die?
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
To the Halls of Mandos for a while, and what happens when they leave, no one knows.
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u/Raxacoriocophallos Jan 10 '23
Does this mean they are elf-kin?
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
No. Everyone, except presumably the dwarves and orcs, go to the halls of Mandos for a time. Then Men leave and go Eru knows where, and what happens to the Hobbits is unknown.
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u/sexybimbogf Jan 10 '23
they don't go to heaven where the angels fly
they go to a lake of fire and fry
don't see 'em again 'till the fourth of Ju-ly
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What is the capital of Assyria?!
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
I'm sorry, I don't think there's a place in Arda called Assyria.
But it's Assur, if you mean the place in Mesopotamia.
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What is the average air speed velocity of a laden swallow?!
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
Now, that I can not tell you.
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What is your favorite color?
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
White or blue
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Jan 10 '23
This entire skit has been from a movie called âMonty Python and The Holy Grail.
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u/smithm3254 Jan 10 '23
Why didnât Tom Bombidil destroy Sauron like he destroys Goldberrys ass?
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u/Thazrael13 Ent Jan 10 '23
How did Morgoth curse TĂșrin? Did he legitimately place a curse upon all of HĂșrinâs sons, or did he just make it a point to torment them when he could? In other words, if TĂșrinâs heritage had never been revealed would his doom have been the same?
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u/abe_sobai Jan 10 '23
I think it was intentionally left to interpretation. In many of the book scenes, it was the hubris of Turin that led to his downfall. Also, there may not have been a curse per se. Morgoth definitely kept eyes and ears on both of them and made sure to make their lives a living hell.
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u/LethalGrey Jan 10 '23
Where was Gondor when the Westfold fell?
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u/Alkynesofchemistry Ăon of ĂerindĂ« Jan 10 '23
Does Bilboâs party speech end up as an insult or a compliment?
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u/bilbo_bot Jan 10 '23
Oh! Thankyou my boy You're a good lad Frodo. I'm very selfish you know. Yes, I am. Very selfish. I don't know why I took you in after your mother and father died, but it wasn't out of charity. I think it was because, of all my numerous relations, you were the one Baggins that showed real spirit.
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u/manly_man Jan 10 '23
How are orcs and Uruk-hai created? Is Saruman correct in the movies? And totally off topic-who would win in a fight Wonder Woman or Galadriel?
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u/Solitarypilot Jan 10 '23
We donât have a solid answer on the orcs. Tolkien had many, many ideas of where they came from, and when his son Christopher compiled the Simarillion, he felt forced to make a decision on the origin of the orcs, and so he chose the corrupted elves idea. However we see in some of Tolkienâs letters and later writings that of all his ideas, he concluded that the orcs certainly were not of elven origin. Some other ideas included corrupted/twisted men, constructs made from mud and earth similar to golems, and even an idea that a person would be taken and their soul forced from the body, which would then be inhabited by a small piece of spirit from either Morgoth or Sauron.
Uruk-hai are simply a crossbreed between humans and orcs.
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u/Saruman_Bot Istari Jan 10 '23
'Tis true I gave Men to the service of my will, crafting fell Uruk-hai. As for thy query regarding a contest on strength and courage 'twixt Galadriel and Wonder Woman, methinks the answer depends upon their resources in battle: if both had command of magic such as mine own fair ring holds, then Galadriel would see victory;elsewise it be a question of skill with sword or bow.
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u/killingmemesoftly Jan 10 '23
Is it true that edith Tolkien nicknamed his penis âgrondâ and thatâs where he got the name for morgothâs war hammer?
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u/reflectedpoj Jan 10 '23
I am trying to learn everything, and i mean everything about this world and its history. Where do I start? Where do I end? Where do I go? Is there anything I should avoid? Have you tried to learn elvish or any other language from middle earth? Are the stories chronological, or are they bits and pieces from here and there? Thank you for your time.
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
First off, congratulations! That's amazing.
I'd start with reading the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings, if you haven't already. After that, I'd advise progressing to the Silmarillion, and then Unfinished Tales. After that, read all of the History of Middle Earth.
The Hobbit, LOTR, The Silmarillion, Luthien and Beren, The Fall of Gondolin, and a couple others are in chronogical order, but the rest are bits and pieces, or notes and information about it.
I personally haven't tried to learn Elvish, because I'm in the process of learning another language, and mixing the two is probably not a good idea. But http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/index.html has some Elvish phrases to start off with if you want to start learning.
I hope this helped! Have fun on your journey, mellon nin.
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u/New_Sand_4905 Jan 10 '23
Children of Hurin is a coherent story as well, so after the Silmarillion I would recommend Children of Hurin, Been and Luthien and then Fall of Gondolin. In decending order of complete texts being shown. I love all of them to bits.
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u/Heron_Dear Jan 10 '23
This is vgood advise I found it very hard to get through the simillarion by reading it and you need to get through that to understand the other stories. So I got it on book on tape and found it to be wondeeful
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u/LNK1264 Jan 10 '23
At the end of Fellowship, when Frodo and Sam are getting ready to part with the group, the Uruk are there, and Frodo and Merry exchange a Meaningful Look, just before Merry and Pippin start yelling to draw the attention of the Uruk. Do you think Frodo and Merry, in that moment, both knew that choice would very likely lead to Merry and Pippin dying? Did those two Hobbits know that, and choose that, and see that in each other, while poor Pippin sat oblivious, waiting for Merry to choose?
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u/Rymanbc Jan 10 '23
I don't think that happened in the books at all. But in the movie, Pippin seemed to be in the loop and working to draw them away. I think he knew what he was doing. Don't discount his bravery just because Gandalf likes to insult him. He's a brash Took with far more courage than your average hobbit.
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u/BraDDsTeR-_- Jan 10 '23
Is it true Legolas and Gimli would yell their body counts during battles?
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u/Solitarypilot Jan 10 '23
Yes, but so far as I can remember, only at Helms Deep do we see them keeping count in the books
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u/TheIngeniusNoob Jan 10 '23
I currently own The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, The Silmarilion, and the two lost tales books. Am I missing anything?
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
There are ten other History of Middle Earth books, and the Nature of Middle Earth.
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u/New_Sand_4905 Jan 10 '23
Children of Hurin, Been and Luthien, Fall of Gondolin. All of them pretty easy to read, at least compared to the Histories.
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u/SubstantialAd4587 Jan 10 '23
How many light-years is Earth from the Sun?
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
I don't know in light-years, but in elves stacked on top of eachother it would be about 7,014,857,143 elves.
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u/Saruman_Bot Istari Jan 10 '23
'Tis a puzzle for minds more learned than mine, not one to be solved by a mere scholar of Middle-earth. Yet I would hazard the guess that the answer lies beyond measure, ever separated by vast celestial distances.
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u/CatsPackersAndMemez Jan 10 '23
Do you distinguish a big difference in the Christopher Tolkienâs edits through the posthumous published works, or do all the books have the same feel? Genuinely asking, just bought Children of HĂșrin and a couple others.
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u/Natedawg1516 Jan 10 '23
In your opinion, what is the most evil/fowel creature in middle earth and why?
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u/Rymanbc Jan 10 '23
Whatever was in Eowyn's stew.
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u/Turok87 Morgoth Balrogs Jan 10 '23
At this point I don't know who Tom Bombadil is, and i'm too afriad to ask
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u/YourMaternalStep-dad Jan 10 '23
The most character of all time. Even Tolkien didn't know what he was.
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u/usumoio Jan 10 '23
What something from the First Age or before that you would want to see on the big screen?
For me, its either Utumno or Angband in their primes.
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u/XLookBehindYouX Jan 10 '23
I have a pretty surface level knowledge of the lore behind LotR but even I could tell Rings of Power was taking a dump on the lore. So as someone with thorough knowledge of it all, how much did they get wrong? Or would it be easier to list what they got right?
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u/LeGullasch Jan 10 '23
Whatâs your favorite non-middle-earth work by Tolkien? :)
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u/Theryal Jan 10 '23
There is a lotr question i always wanted to ask:
As far as I know: Gandalf is a Maiar, who are very powerful beings. But he was sent to
middleearth by the valar in a much weaker form. So in theory he is the
very powerful OlĂłrin, but as Gandalf he has access to a small margin of that power.
Durins Bane on the other Hand is a Maiar corrupted by Morgoth, as all
Balrogs are, right? So how could a Maiar who has only access to a small
margin of his power beat a Maiar who doesnt seem to have this
limitation?
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u/jtcordell2188 Jan 10 '23
How many different published novels are there? I want to eventually amass all of them but I want to know what exactly to look for so I have all the writings
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u/varda_elentari_913 Elf Jan 10 '23
- The Hobbit
- The Lord of the Rings
- The Silmarillion
- Unfinished Tales
- Luthien and Beren
- The Peoples of Middle Earth
- Morgoth's Ring
- Nature of Middle Earth
- The Fall of Gondolin
- The Children of Hurin
- The Book of Lost Tales I
- The Book of Lost Tales II
- The Lays of Beleriand
- The Shaping of Middle Earth
- The Lost Road and Other Writings
- The Return of the Shadow
- The Treason of Isengard
- The War of the Ring
- Sauron Defeated
- The War of the Jewels
- The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien
Those are all the Middle Earth ones.
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u/Spoopy_Ghost1 Jan 10 '23
Are there any explanations for Faramir's use of the Aldeis in ROTK?
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u/Golgezuktirah Would part an old man from his walking stick Jan 10 '23
Were you there? 3000 years ago?
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u/Revolutionary_Oven34 Jan 10 '23
Where did the Ent wives go?