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u/dsherwo
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1 year ago today a school confiscated my artwork for being “criminal,” so I framed the evidence tags
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u/CodeOmega0 Feb 06 '23
From the article:
Why would I waste my time perfecting craft when the act of being imperfect was producing such cathartic results?
Sadly, this attitude did not go over well with my ceramics teacher.
Oh, the teacher didn't like that you literally wouldn't put effort into learning the craft of the class you signed up for, but were constantly arguing with your teachers and writing thinly-veiled poetry about how you hate them? I wonder why they didn't like that.
I finally called Desmond an asshole to his face, walked away and later wrote him an email saying I'm no longer comfortable being cornered by him and that anything he had to say, he could say via email
I was definitely poking the bear.
You were then cited for 415.5 - using offensive words that are inherently likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction.
Dude, calm down. You're not the victim here. You went overboard and got called out for it.
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u/forgetyourhorse Feb 06 '23
Aren’t you the massive douche who was selling artwork made out of clay stolen from the school?
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u/BunzoBear Feb 06 '23
Stealing supply's to run a business is a crime. You stole art supplies made smart with it sold that art made a profit and then when you were caught made a scene when were kicked off campus
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u/gladamirflint Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23 •
Not gonna reply to OP, but anyone doubting, here’s some excerpts from their (now deleted) post last year:
I took a Saturday sculpture class with Danny, who wasn’t all that good of an artist and was a brand-new teacher
He let me bring some of my work to the school studio and work on personal projects, let me have extra materials because the school had a lot stockpiled due to the pandemic,
however the work I show is my personal craft and totally unrelated to the classes I was taking at the college.
OP only got verbal permission from a brand-new teacher to use materials and facilities he had no right to use for personal gain. He also allegedly made a racist caricature of one of his professors after they started fighting.
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u/N3phewJemima Feb 07 '23
He's just a narcissist. A shitty person.
His wire art is good, but he sucks as a person and can't figure out why everyone despises him. If everyone around you is an asshole then it's actually you who is the asshole. It's not some conspiracy against him, he just sucks.
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u/Suspicious_Drive6655 Feb 07 '23
Lmao I love seeing the comments outing OP for being the problem
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u/Perendinator Feb 06 '23
This sounds super familiar, I kinda remember something about them accusing you of being a professional artist already or something and selling stuff you made in class. Either that or mad deja vu.
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u/lolathedreamer Feb 07 '23
What’s interesting is the comments here are very negative but on the original post all of the comments were supportive of OP. The post is deleted so I’m not sure how the case for his side was presented but the few negative responses I scrolled past were heavily downvoted.
I attend SMC and have never had any negative experience like that but I also would never act like OP did so I’m not surprised. In the design program the professors are all super professional and nice. And there are several professional designers in my courses that are just taking the course for refreshers or certifications. All designs feedback for them is super positive from the professors and doesn’t come off as bitter or jealous. Of course that may not indicate every professor at SMC but it makes me question OP.
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u/Slippyfrog221 Feb 06 '23
I'm waiting to hear the story?
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u/deepsea333 Feb 06 '23
He didn’t threaten staff and then got banned from campus?
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u/MyVoiceforPeople Feb 06 '23
1 year later and you’re still wrong for what you did
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u/bent_my_wookie Feb 06 '23
You sure it didn’t just REALLY suck? /s
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u/mountingconfusion Feb 06 '23
Also they were selling the things they made using campus materials lmao
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u/mkul316 Feb 06 '23
So a very cursory search turns up Reno v ACLU which decided that obscenity is not protected speech. Which means the large "Fuck you" on the one piece is definitely not protected.
Your side as told in the magazine sounds very much like there's a lot missing. If the professor was targeting you to such an extent for no reason, why didn't you go to the administration or a lawyer? I'm guessing a lot of push back led up to the incident about the pottery. The line about you already being a professional artist reads that way for sure.
As far as asking you to withdraw from the school, the fact you were using profanity and heavily criticizing the school in your art seems like a pretty good reason to ask you to go. Why should they put up with that?
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u/nye1387 Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23
That's not what "obscenity" means in the First Amendment context.
To determine whether something is obscene, courts look at "(a) whether the average person, applying contemporary community standards would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest; (b) whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law; and (c) whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value." Source: Miller v. California
Saying "fuck" in public is not obscene. Source: Cohen v. California
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u/Nickslife89 Feb 07 '23
You again? Sheesh. It's marked as criminal, because it is. You stole supplies, and then you sold the artwork you created with the stolen art supplies... Do you see how this is actually criminal?
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u/kennyj313 Feb 07 '23
Watching this post get downvoted into oblivion in real time is pretty wild.
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u/sirchtheseeker Feb 06 '23
How could they do this and keep it?
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u/deepsea333 Feb 06 '23
This guy did a TIFU post about a year ago with a lot more detail. He was using a local community college Santa Monica community college as his own personal art studio and then selling the works on the side. Some of the comments turned out to be supportive, but a lot of them said hey, this sounds fishy Because it was so that post has been deleted.
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u/dsherwo Feb 06 '23
They used it as leverage to get me to withdraw, since I was calling out their department’s bullshit. When I asked for what policy allowed them to hold my work hostage, they were silent and said “just sign the agreement” https://imgur.com/a/EUujpAH
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u/Blu3Army73 Feb 06 '23
Just FYI I can read everything you attempted to redact. You really need to cover the entirety of the text to obscure it
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u/dsherwo Feb 06 '23
Fixed!
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u/machina99 Feb 06 '23
Fyi your full name is still visible in your email at the top
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u/dsherwo Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23
My name is also visible on the evidence tags. I’m mostly concerned about not doxxing the administrative staff
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u/etaoin314 Feb 06 '23
since I assume you were using their materials and facilities for a commercial (as opposed to educational) purpose and that was not specifically authorized the ownership is at least ambiguous. I am not sure where a court would be likely to fall on this one. its actually an interesting legal question. Its a shame you did not test it in court.
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u/Mister_Xian Feb 07 '23
At this moment, there's about 600 comments.
200 are OP reinforcing why the other 400 say they're a twat.
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u/CommonSenseIsNeeded Feb 06 '23
Where’s the art?
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u/dsherwo Feb 06 '23
It’s criminally bad, if anything. But that was the point of it! https://imgur.com/a/cyOKJoQ
In another post I linked to an article about it which has more context
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u/SageTegan Feb 06 '23
What's the art work, can we see? Or get a description? Thank you :)
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u/QueenPuff88 Feb 06 '23
How was it criminal exactly? I'm confused by this. Was it a horrid subject matter?
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u/SivlerMiku Feb 06 '23
It wasn’t - it was confiscated because OP stole supplies, abused the teaching staff and lied all over the internet to try to hype their mediocre art.
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u/Sunshinehappyfeet Feb 06 '23
The first red flag is you had an instructor with Masters in Fine Art teaching at a community college.
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u/bravehamster Feb 06 '23
Most community colleges require an MFA to teach art, and there are plenty of high school teachers with Masters degrees.
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u/Contingency_Plans Feb 06 '23
In many states teachers at every grade level (K-12) are required to have a masters degree. Oregon allows you to earn it within x years of starting as an educator but I don't know how other states handle this.
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u/dsherwo Feb 06 '23
Yup. He was of the “since I haven’t succeeded, none of you will either” attitude, and that pissed me off to no end lol
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Feb 07 '23
If you let the right wing write this article. It'll be about how the states are suppressing freedom of speech and art.
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u/rooks1999 Feb 06 '23
Need a little context. How were 3 clay sculptures evidence? Murder weapons, holding human remains? Very curious.