r/technology Feb 06 '23

Dell to layoff 6,650 employees as demand for PCs plummets Business

https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/6/23587401/dell-employees-layoffs-tech-recession-falling-pc-laptop-sales
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u/fancysauce_boss Feb 06 '23

I mean it’s not really like dell is in a tight spot. The article should say demand for “personal” PC plummets.

Dell and HP have the corporate computer market on lock so the personal side of their business is going to be pennys on the dollar.

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u/1ncognito Feb 06 '23

Yep. PCs are a commodity product as this point, very little margin is to be made on them. Willing to bet even with a 35%+ drop in shipments Dell will still post profit because of the storage/server side of the business

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '23

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u/1ncognito Feb 07 '23

Dell makes, at best, something like a 17 percent margin on laptops. Chrome books, etc, which have become a huge portion of sales, make even less. In the not too distant future, it would not shock me if Dell cut that portion of the business or spun it off as it’s own company.

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u/CorneredSponge Feb 07 '23

I don’t necessarily see that happening, just because it could become somewhat of a loss leader (or razor thin margin leader) for their infrastructure products.

Additionally, they seem to be unifying their client and infrastructure platforms for synergetic growth in edge use cases and accelerating hybrid platform deployment.

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u/MyGoodDood22 Feb 08 '23

They make more than 17% margin. Trust

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u/kubazi Feb 07 '23

Doesn't matter. Business is in server sales, not laptop or desktop sales.

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u/balne Feb 07 '23

im guessing that the server market might not be doing too hot. demand, from what ive heard, is down across the board due to just everyone who runs data centers spending less money on them

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u/skilliard7 Feb 06 '23

A lot of companies operate on a 5 year upgrade cycle, but pushed forward their upgrade cycles in 2020 since people needed laptops to work from home. So there's a lot of corporate slowdown to. Especially with the recent surge in layoffs meaning that companies have more spare computers from laid off employees.

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u/xternal7 Feb 06 '23

I think that companies will notice that hardware is getting obsolete a lot slower than it used to.

Up until 10 years or so ago, 5 year old hardware was barely fit for use. Meanwhile, my 2015 laptop is still plenty good.

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u/Tran_shang Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23

Given more ram and a swap to a SSD, the only thing that would still make a sandy/ivy i5 laptop(with speedstep disabled in bios so it never goes below 2ghz) feel slow, is win10's indexing/updating/antivirus scanning/system maintaince defragging when idle, BS,

disable all those crap svcs(there's even a regedit that lets u right click take ownership of, and delete, waasmedicagent.exe), and even a 2012 laptop will feel fine

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u/dL1727 Feb 06 '23

Any general tips for speeding up a Windows Surface? I have the 5th generation Pro (2018) and it can barely handle Photoshop.

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u/jambrown13977931 Feb 07 '23

Companies that are laying off employees aren’t going splurge on new computers because they’ve slightly slowed down

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u/aidenr Feb 06 '23

That… and people really love MacBooks.

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u/MathMaddox Feb 06 '23

Macbook sales were significantly down this quarter

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u/Tran_shang Feb 06 '23

As they should be considering all the 32bit/windows apps/games a m1 macbook can't run

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u/DeepTh0tt Feb 06 '23

They are horrible and look the same as they did a decade ago. Closed architecture overpriced junk to be blunt.

Why anyone would want to give up freedom of choice to get locked into Apple's ecosystem is beyond me.

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u/aidenr Feb 06 '23

For me it was just finally having a fairly secure computer. Granted I gave up tons of games to get it, but it’s fast as fire and gives me a great dev environment. I can’t imagine going back to crashes and patches.

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u/sirachillies Feb 07 '23

Let me introduce you to one of the healthcare organizations i used to work for.. computers that were and I shit you not shipped with Windows Vista and 7 running Windows 10 because they don't want to spend money on new equipment. The replacement approach is what's moving them forward.. as the old finally breaks... They get replaced. Something about the squeaky wheel gets greased.

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u/asdaaaaaaaa Feb 06 '23

Was going to say, until their commercial market starts struggling, the retail isn't that big of a deal.

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u/waffleslaw Feb 06 '23

This is an interesting observation. I'm a college professor and in my lab I have 24 Dell laptops. So I'm used to seeing them every day. But now that you mentioned it, I don't think I've seen a Dell actually owned by a student.

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u/Special_Rice9539 Feb 06 '23

They have a pretty good personal laptop called the xps-15, but students who want a personal laptop for coding will often choose a mac. People who don’t like mac’s are often Linux people and will go for a Lenovo thinkpad. Other people who don’t want a Mac will go for a gaming laptop.

And students who want a cheap laptop will go for another brand than dell.

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u/waffleslaw Feb 06 '23

What I see is gaming and cheap.

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u/Mother-Wasabi-3088 Feb 06 '23

You can throw Framework into the mix now too. It's only real peers are the MacBook and the ThinkPad

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u/Tran_shang Feb 06 '23

Dell Latitude E6000 Premier Business Laptops - YouTube

Still the best laptop keyboards ever made, I tried a Thinkpad x270 and the chiclet kb was total trash in comparison

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u/CorneredSponge Feb 07 '23

As a Uni student, I do own an Alienware, but I agree, most people don’t own Dell branded products anymore short of XPS

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u/Aware_Material_9985 Feb 06 '23

Well even on the corporate side, the long term RoI for virtual desktops has to be hitting the PC market

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u/Some_Nibblonian Feb 06 '23

Last I heard HP dropped to the number 3 position.

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u/okvrdz Feb 06 '23

What they meant to say is that reality isn’t keeping up with their revenue projections. Their greed isn’t wrong in this equation, is the consumer.

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u/jews4beer Feb 06 '23

Storage too since the EMC acquisition.

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u/aidenr Feb 06 '23

Idk I haven’t heard someone ask for Del for 10 years. Lenovo seems fine for business PCs. We don’t even take calls from Dell or HP.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 07 '23

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '23

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u/Tran_shang Feb 06 '23

I need a rlolitary boderline-h "cartoon" about Sally Mann's life as a mother

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y Feb 06 '23

Dell used to be good when you could actually configure a system with the stuff you wanted. Now they aren't really that customizable anymore. No different than buying off HP or any of the other large PC manufacturers.

That and PC's last a lot longer than the used to. The upgrade cycle is quite long. You can be running a 10 year old computer and be perfectly fine as long as you aren't playing games. Even for games cutting edge is a lot less important than it used to be. A lot of popular games will run on lower end hardware as long as you have a graphics card.

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u/seatux Feb 06 '23

You can be running a 10 year old computer and be perfectly fine as long as you aren't playing games.

Man if it wasn't for Win 10 going EOL in 2025, I would have been able to keep machines going. I now got a few to toss out because of this arbitrary decision.

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u/nails_for_breakfast Feb 06 '23

So you mean you're going to have to throw out perfectly functional equipment and spend money on new stuff and you think this decision was "arbitrary"?

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y Feb 06 '23

There's always Linux. It's getting better all the time.

I never throw out old machines. Always able to find another use for them. I have an old AMD Phenom that I use for a Minecraft server and an emulation machine.

I hope that they will remove some of the requirements for Windows 11 like requiring TPM so that older machines can keep using newer operating systems.

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u/caverunner17 Feb 06 '23

It's getting better all the time.

If I had a dollar for every time I've heard that over the last 20 years. Sure Ubuntu has come a long way over the last 5-10 years for consumer usage, but there's still a huge gap between it and MacOS/Windows for ease of use and compatibility.

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y Feb 06 '23

Yeah. I admit it's not perfect. But things like the Steam Deck which runs on Linux are pushing gaming to get better on Linux, or at least make a larger number of titles available.

I'll admit that I've been trying/hoping to use Linux for over 20 years as my main operating system but every time I go back to it I find reasons that I just can't make it work. There's always some kind of hardware that doesn't work the way it should, or some important piece of software that doesn't run.

But for older machines that I don't use daily I usually just install Linux on the them for specific tasks. I find it runs a lot more lean than windows. No matter what I'm doing, windows seems to spike to 20% CPU usage at random times for things like malware detection or indexing or telemetry or a host of other things. My Linux machines pretty much stick to zero unless something is actively running.

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u/Xoebe Feb 06 '23

I am running Win 8.1 from 2013. Runs WoW just fine, though with the latest patch I tuned down some graphic settings.

I run GIMP, a couple of different CAD apps, Blender, Krita, Inkscape. All run fine, but honestly I am not making huge demands.

Can't upgrade Chrome because of 8.1, and can't install Stray (the cat game) because I am not on 10, lol.

I can't upgrade to 10/11 because the mobo isn't UEFI/Secure Boot compatible.

So..I need to get a new machine that literally has no more RAM, insignificant upgrade to CPU and GPU...Just to run an "upgraded" OS that is little more than malware?

I'd jump back into Linux, but the gaming experience for Linux users has been a PITA in the past.

Yeah, I have a couple of other machines that are perfectly fine too, just sitting around gathering dust.

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u/asdf9asdf9 Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23

I can't upgrade to 10/11 because the mobo isn't UEFI/Secure Boot compatible.

I'm pretty sure Win 10 still supports legacy BIOS. I have it running on a decade old laptop.

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u/Competitive-Dot-3333 Feb 06 '23

Gotta love consumerism

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u/Blahkbustuh Feb 07 '23

I replaced my daily driver computer from the early 10s last summer. I was wasn't in a hurry to get a new computer since it ran fine enough until it started doing a thing where it'd blue screen randomly 1-2x per day (I suspected it was the power supply failing), but let me tell you the difference between a traditional HD and an SDD is massive. SDDs are lightning fast. Had I known what a difference it'd be, I'd have changed computers much sooner since I think those became widespread mid-decade.

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u/sirsmiley Feb 06 '23

Dell's absolutely can be fully customized on their business ordering page.

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u/1ncognito Feb 06 '23

Yep, plus “customization” for laptops these days is pretty minimal in general. There are maybe 5 things that actually matter, the rest is going to be dependent on which product line you buy from. There’s no real market for truly customizable laptops because anything that would actually need it is being done via workstation or cloud computing

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y Feb 06 '23

Yeah it seems that it's only available on higher end machines like the XPS desktop. If you pick something like the Inspiron desktop then they seem to only ship what's in stock. Like I could get a 1 TB SSD, but only if I picked 1 specific processor, not even the highest end. And the max option was 16GB of RAM even though there's no reason that these machines couldn't accomodate 32 GB of RAM. It seems like all the options only use 1 ram stick even though I've never seen a motherboard with a single RAM slot in my entire life. Also weird that storage tops out at 1 TB when they could easily put a 2 TB drive in there

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u/deaznutelanutz Feb 07 '23

The Inspiron is el cheapo option and is made for grandmas. The optiolex and latitudes are very customizable

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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y Feb 07 '23

You can get an Inspiron with an i7 12700, that's no slouch of a processor. The OptiPlex full tower I looked up had similar options, but kind of worse. The OptiPlex didn't even. Have an option for dedicated graphics. At least the Inspiron had the option of a 1660. OptiPlex max storage was 512 GB, thats garbage

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u/SidewaysFancyPrance Feb 06 '23

I haven't bought a PC laptop in a decade, but I always bought customizable BTO systems. Nowadays I would look for a tighter build/design and not worry about expansion/upgrades/etc (like MacBooks). I'd be more than happy with an off-the-shelf model as long as it wasn't towards the end of its lifecycle.

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u/MyGoodDood22 Feb 08 '23 edited Feb 08 '23

You can customize things, at least on the business/commercial side. Dell .com. you can build your own pc/laptop with whatever specs you want. Dell holds more share of the market for a reason.

Source- I knew some friends that were let go. It's been rough for them.

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u/KevinDean4599 Feb 06 '23

At least Michael Dell can look forward to a $25 billion payday when his stake in VMware sells to Broadcom later this year.

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u/c0mad0r Feb 06 '23

I still don't believe the US will allow VMWare to be sold to Broadcom. There's too much vested by Governments into it that are of national security interest (Homeland Security and multiple defense contractors for example use it heavily).

The EU is evaluating it right now for being anticompetitive: https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/21/european_comission_vmware_broadcom_investigation/

We will see though.

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u/drawkbox Feb 06 '23

Anyone still using VMWare is a chump, but even more after they sell to Broadcom.

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u/cultureicon Feb 06 '23

It's amazing how cheap the renewed dells are on Amazon. Great specs like i7, ssd, high ram for like $150.

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u/ArmsForPeace84 Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23

Which is the only time I ever recommend a Dell to someone. These retired office PCs are stupidly cheap and easy to turn into budget 1080p gaming rigs.

Especially combined with the testing Linus Tech Tips did on a bunch of used GPUs bought without even doing any due diligence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFytB3bb1P8

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u/Livid-Painting-9020 Feb 06 '23

Good to know. I might have to look around for one of these…

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u/MyGoodDood22 Feb 08 '23

Lol you just trying to lure people to tour page.

Amazon laptops/desktops are usually parted/built slapped with a dell case. Things Dell don't sell, they have. Lol

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u/TLDReddit73 Feb 06 '23

"Dude, you're getting a layoff"

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u/glonq Feb 06 '23

I'm ready to upgrade to a new PC; just waiting for:

  1. GPU prices that are not a total rip-off.
  2. CPU prices that are competitive.
  3. Component prices that are not over-inflated.

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u/killrtaco Feb 06 '23

Hey man what do you mean $1200 istoo much for a 4080? /s

A single part is what used to be an entire gaming budget...

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u/thinkB4WeSpeak Feb 06 '23

Everyone realized you don't need to buy a new PC every year and you can keep the same PC going for a decent amount of time.

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u/MagicChemist Feb 07 '23

PCs just are not progressing like they used to. 15 years ago a 3 year gap would mean your PC was significantly faster with step changes in memory and storage. Now they just did something like add in tablet mode and an extra camera which you never use.

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u/LigerXT5 Feb 06 '23

I'm sure there's plenty of demand, just not enough people who have the spending money to keep the buying action of the demand highly active.

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u/WhatTheZuck420 Feb 06 '23

Dell is a company that not only doesn't care about support, they don't even care about sales. Placed an order for two top shelf laptops. After a month I contacted the sales rep who informed me that the order "must have stalled in the system. Just re-order."

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u/UrbanGhost114 Feb 06 '23

You are not the target market.

They are a business oriented company these days.

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u/WhatTheZuck420 Feb 06 '23

You are not the target market.

the order was place from the company i worked for. for business.

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u/UrbanGhost114 Feb 06 '23

Oh damn, then nevermind, apparently they suck all around, keep hearing good things about their business side, and crap about consumer side.

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u/nilly24 Feb 06 '23

I work for a MSP that deploys Dell workstations to our clients. I would agree that their business side has been great with us. Not to say we don’t have issues with them, they certainly aren’t outstanding or anything but they’ve treated us well for several years now

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u/MaoWasaLoser Feb 06 '23

Their business support is fine. Possibly even good some times.

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u/Lee1138 Feb 06 '23

The business arms of most of these companies might as well be another brand. Their support, treatment of customers (and often even product quality), is completely different. At least if you're the kind of customer that buys a couple of thousand units at the time.

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u/deaznutelanutz Feb 07 '23

I work in sales at dell and that’s the excuse of a guy who never checked the shipping date

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u/Tibogaibiku Feb 07 '23

Or some SKU went EOL and order was stuck, and ordering team didnt bother to check them. Sales guys dont cover this but get blamed.

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u/dillrepair Feb 06 '23

Well then why won’t they lower the prices more already… this is what happens when you get used to gouging

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u/noodle-face Feb 06 '23

It's because of the panic buying in 2020 that propped up the client side business. 3 years later and people don't need upgrades.

You can trash talk Dell all you want but my workstation laptop I have for work is amazing. Only dislike is every port is USB-c

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u/Tibogaibiku Feb 07 '23

Precision's are brutal

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u/Fner Feb 06 '23

During the first lockdown in April 202, I was dying to get a new laptop. I decided to get the new XPS, so I could game a bit and have a beast of a laptop. My partner would have to lend me money so I could afford it, but all good.

My only special request, an AZERTY keyboard. It's more comfortable and I want to be able to use accents as pcs don't have the "press and accents come up" function. Impossible to order from the site.

I call them. I got bounced from seller to seller, it is not possible to get me an AZERTY keyboard whilst in France.

  • Okay, can the French store send me one?
  • No. Also impossible, you have to go to France.
  • Mate, the borders are closed, noone is going to France.

I went on the Apple website, ordered a MacBook pro exactly to the specs I wanted, with the keyboard I wanted. I bought it in installments with 0% Apr. It arrived in less than two weeks.

Sure I don't get all the games, but I have a fucking laptop, it was made extremely convenient for me to aquire it. Dell did it to themselves.

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u/rook119 Feb 06 '23

Dell to layoff 6,650 employees because there is an ample supply of laid off tech workers who will do the same job for less money.

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u/Layer-This Feb 07 '23

Demand go down, price stay same…

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u/dwnarandomrabbithole Feb 06 '23

demand for "their" PC's plummet.

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u/PmMeYourBestComment Feb 06 '23

Yes, but general PC demand is also decreasing. So decrease on decrease I suppose.

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u/Nikiaf Feb 06 '23

Most of the people who used to buy low and mid-tier computers have mostly given up and bought iPads instead. The only people who are really buying personal computers anymore are students (who skew heavily toward MacBooks), gamers (who tend to build their own or go to boutique brands), and businesses who generally operate on a 3-year lifecycle. The rest of the market has pretty much gone away at this point.

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u/kraken_enrager Feb 06 '23

This comment is so American…it’s almost fascinating.

Here in india, dell and HP are the dominant players by a landslide.

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u/Nikiaf Feb 06 '23

I'm not American, just so you know.

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u/kraken_enrager Feb 06 '23

Damn, west European?

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u/kraken_enrager Feb 06 '23

Oh or Canadian

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u/Substance___P Feb 06 '23

India is still a developing market. It's really not a bellwether for the industry.

For perspective, Q3 2022 India only had 3.9 million units sold vs the US alone's 17.8 million units. EU had 12.8 million units Q3 2022. China had 13 million units.

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u/kraken_enrager Feb 06 '23

India is one of the very few countries with a positive YOY growth this year, so that’s something to go by.

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u/Substance___P Feb 06 '23

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u/kraken_enrager Feb 06 '23

Not quarter. Financial year. It was in day before yesterdays economic times

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u/Substance___P Feb 06 '23

If you say so, buddy.

Seems like they started strong due to government purchases and fizzled out like the rest of the world at the end of the year. It's a pretty small market that doesn't justify the cocky comments above.

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u/kraken_enrager Feb 06 '23

Yeah it was bad for this quarter but great for this fin year it was pretty great.

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u/DerikHallin Feb 06 '23

Is it demand that is decreasing? Or are manufacturers just price gouging, leading to an equilibrium rift? Historically, until 2020, pretty much every year we would see PC hardware get better and prices either stable or decrease. Basically every year was a better value proposition to enter the market or purchase an upgrade.

COVID-19 / supply crisis / bitcoin boom completely turned that on its head and the market still hasn't recovered to anything close to what we used to see. Look at the pricing on NVIDIA's latest batch of GPUs. I bet you there are hundreds of thousands of people out there who have been thinking about upgrading for months or even years, but are still waiting for the market to return to something closer to what we used to see.

If the market never recovers and this is the new normal, then it's still not just a question of demand, but of elasticity. I would assume the same number of people still want new PCs, but they just aren't willing to shell out $200 or $300 more for them compared to what they are "used" to.

I don't have access to the kind of consumer data that would actually substantiate this speculation. But I would be surprised to see hard data that indicates it's reduced damand rather than reduced supply that is driving the reduction in sales.

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u/killrtaco Feb 06 '23

High end gaming gpus alone are over $1k. This shits never been more expensive. I have several friends who were adamant pc gamers not touch a pc in years because they cant upgrade.

You used to be able to put parts together for 500-700 and get console level gaming, at one point you could spend that and get above console level gaming.

You would be hard pressed to build an equally capable 4k gaming rig for the price of a ps5 with the same performance now.

Everyone i know who used to be PCMR has just given up and bought a ps5 or given up with gaming all together.

Building PCs for gaming got me more into computers and got me to persue a career in IT. I havent upgraded my personal system in years because i cant afford to.

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u/Sorge74 Feb 06 '23

Outside of businesses, who the fuck buys dells? Who casually buys PC?

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u/curumba Feb 06 '23

Their XPS Laptops are some of the best out there? Expensive, but very premium devices

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u/A40 Feb 06 '23

Layoff isn't a verb.

Hire an editor, Verge.

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u/moofunk Feb 06 '23

The editor was layoffed.

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u/A40 Feb 06 '23

Thanks alot XD

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u/poverty_mayne Feb 06 '23

Musta been the 79$ switches

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u/chanelwescoast Feb 07 '23

Their consumer PCs are garbage and their business account managers are incompetent, no surprise here

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u/daChino02 Feb 06 '23

I know people love to shit on dell, but I’ve been happy with my x15 for over a year.

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u/sayamaai Feb 06 '23

I would have gotten one if it wasn't so fucking expensive

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '23

Demand isn't plummeting, people are just no longer willing to buy shit for a mountain of money.

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u/killrtaco Feb 06 '23

Would probably change if businesses would give more money to workers but that's asking too much

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u/Tigris_Morte Feb 06 '23

You mean the Executives pumping up prices way beyond actual cost increases reduced sales????

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u/Surgeincoming_ Feb 07 '23

Can anyone help me explain how I got hired at Dell EMC during the layoffs ? They must’ve been planning this for a few weeks right ? I was hired 12/12/2022 which seems like I either BARELY made it or since I don’t start until 4/10, I may still be considered in that 6,500… idk. All I know is I have a deposit on a place in round rock so I’m coming regardless !

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u/MMAwannabe Feb 07 '23

There is still reqs open for some jobs now.

There's plenty of divisions that won't be affected at all most likely.

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u/deaznutelanutz Feb 07 '23

It really depends on the department

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u/vanhalenbr Feb 06 '23

Michel Dell should shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders

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u/Lootcifer- Feb 06 '23

Dell is the biggest trash PC manufacturer out there so it doesn’t surprise me.

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u/TheDisruptor Feb 07 '23

I have sympathy for the employees caught in the crossfire of Dell's crap machine. But I do hope Dell as a corporation starts to feel some heat on their account executive side.

We deploy Dell workstations exclusively where I work and our representative is absolutely incompetent. The warranty repair process is painful and our "on-site" support is sub-contracted out to the lowest bidder who send techs that have no clue how to work on the machines. Compatibility guides are a 50/50 hit or miss these days and there are multiple SKUs for the same part. Prices are going up, configuration options are going down, and quality seems to go down with every generation of Latitude laptops...

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u/SunshineAndSquats Feb 07 '23

It was a ton of Account Executives in medium business laid off today. Tons of middle management in EMC.

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u/SethBranden Feb 07 '23

This is killing me. The verbal phrase is "lay off", the noun is layoff. There were layoffs when I laid people off. Dell lays off people to create layoffs. It's not that hard!!!!!

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u/knightress_oxhide Feb 07 '23

Dude, you ain't getting a Dell.

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u/Pleinairi Feb 07 '23

Demands for PCs plummet or.. Stay with me here.. OR.. Dell and all the other tech companies are overcharging. Demand goes down because no one has the money to spend.

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u/Dobal5 Feb 07 '23

Boo hoo

I'd have more sympathy if they didn't push system updates that cause my bios to break.

My 9560 has been limping along for years with a boot issue, no fix, no help on forums. Maybe if they had competent software engineers they would be doing better.

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u/soulsurfer3 Feb 07 '23

It’s hard to believe Dell is still around. I guess there are millions in non-description office buildings are the world.

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u/deaznutelanutz Feb 07 '23

They make a fuckton of money from servers

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u/MMAwannabe Feb 07 '23

They also have one of the biggest portfolios of enterprises level products in the world.

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u/snickthis Feb 06 '23

Missed opportunity, why didn't they do 16 more? Sorry must be my satanic OCD

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u/Pakk54 Feb 06 '23

just the beginning... of the end.

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u/timelessblur Feb 06 '23

Well I can see a drop happening as a lot of people pulled forward their PC replacements in the past few years of course the ones on the backside are going to delayed and not ordered.

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u/UnrequitedRespect Feb 06 '23

Dell shoulda made hand computers like everyone else who wants to compete

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u/FearFactory2904 Feb 07 '23

They made phones and tablets for a while.

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u/UnrequitedRespect Feb 07 '23

So why isn’t anyone using the dell switch max tab?

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u/FearFactory2904 Feb 07 '23

The phone flopped. A 5 inch phone screen is absurdly large, and too bulky for pockets, and people will look at you weird for holding such a large thing to your head when making a call. At least thats what was being said at the time. I kind of liked it though.

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u/UnrequitedRespect Feb 07 '23

At least your user name is dope, obsolete is one of my top ten all time goat albums

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u/jaypeabee Feb 08 '23

I have purchased Dell laptops (XPS) - but the latest version of the 13” gave me pause. No way to upgrade memory or drive size, as far as I could see. I used to save money by purchasing these myself, then installing. No such luck here.