r/technology Feb 06 '23

‘We’re going through a big revolution’: how AI is de-ageing stars on screen Society


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u/Bubbagumpredditor Feb 06 '23

Why do I think the same thing is going to happen with movies that happened with Christmas music? Everything is frozen in the 80s for nostalgia purposes. We're gonna wind up with cgi Harrison Ford forver


u/Prophet_Tehenhauin Feb 06 '23

What would a modern Christmas movie look like? Everyone forced into matching sweaters for moms IG account, then disaffectedly starring at phones why mom interacts with her followers and dad drinks while watching his crypto profile and the family’s futures crash?


u/RickMonsters Feb 06 '23

There are modern christmas movies every year


u/alsocolor Feb 07 '23

The best example of one I can think of is love hard with Jimmy O Yang. It’s all about online dating catfishing


u/anti-torque Feb 06 '23

I'm from the Confidential Committee on Moral Abuses.


u/snowdrone Feb 07 '23

The irony is that he does battle (sort of) with a CGI Elvis in Blade Runner 2049.


u/profgray2 Feb 06 '23

I miss finding new things to enjoy.. Not repeating the 70s to 80s over and over again


u/Vote_nihilist Feb 06 '23

Creativity is dying if not dead. Everything is becoming derivative.


u/littlebooms Feb 06 '23

Creativity is still there, there’s always someone with a new story to be told. It’s the studios and out of touch producers with too much money and influence and zero “risk taking” ability. They think if they just rehash the same old stuff they’re more likely to profit.


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u/Fenix42 Feb 06 '23

The stuff from the 90s is just now being picked up. Look at Game of Thrones and Wheel of Time as great examples. I would expect stuff from the last 5-10 to start to show up on movies or shows in 10+ years at the earliest.


u/og-ninja-pirate Feb 07 '23

For music, there are plenty of great artists but you have to find them by word of mouth or on youtube / spotify because the industry just mass markets pop stars and junk. Movies require way too many staff and resources. It's hard to create a popular movie with just a few talented people but a music band is exactly that. It might be that technology will get to the point where it's easier for small groups of people to make great movies without huge $ though. I hope that happens but won't hold my breath.


u/Sawaian Feb 07 '23

It isn’t dead. This is risk averse decision. The general population doesn’t show an interest in non established IP’s. Hollywood prefers low budget new films or high budget established IP’s. Technology lead to costs reductions and improvements of film qualities in the 80s. It was the middle of the blockbusters.

Nowadays budgets include Actor salaries that are in the millions. And marketing costs are almost as much as the films. Hollywood is competing for media space against the internet and video games.


u/marumari Feb 07 '23

I have heard this same sentiment every decade of my entire life, people were saying everything was derivative in the 1980’s.


u/CoyoteCarcass Feb 07 '23

This is not a logical comment, but Terrence McKenna once theorized a literal end to novelty around this time. He was coming at it from a metaphysical point of view but we may just reach it technologically.


u/MpVpRb Feb 06 '23

It's a great idea for showing flashbacks of an earlier time

It's a crappy idea for eternally reusing the same popular actors over and over, even after they're dead. We need new ideas, new stories and new actors, not endless repeats and reboots


u/Amazingawesomator Feb 06 '23

Why not just, you know, hire younger actors if the role needs to be played by a younger person?

Seems like a lot less work, cheaper, and the opportunity to find newer talent.



u/PauloPatricio Feb 06 '23

IP is more profitable.


u/theonewhoknocksforu Feb 07 '23

It’s also extending a successful brand, versus taking a risk with a new actor. Spielberg created a TV show in the early 90’s called “The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles,” that cast Sean Patrick Flanery as Young Indy, and George Hall as the 93 year old Indy who was telling the story. The writers would have Old Indy doing typical old man things like forgetting where was, falling asleep, like that. It had mediocre ratings and only lasted 2 years. I watched several episodes, and the stories weren’t bad, but it was missing something, and that something was Harrison Ford. Plus I didn’t like Old Indy portrayed as a doddering old man.

Raiders of the Lost Ark was a great movie and a great story, and Harrison Ford was an integral part of that success. Movies are allowed to suspend reality, and that includes slowing the aging process of the heroes. Having said that, I really wish Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had never been made. I have some trepidation about the new movie, but will keep an open mind.


u/SidewaysFancyPrance Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23

Because they want to continue selling products and services to the older generations that won't "take" to the new generations of actors.

It's also really hard to find and develop talent. I'd say most of the money and effort they spend on that ends up totally wasted, and they just hope to strike gold with a small percentage of the young people (and have to sign them to long contracts to get their money's worth). People are a risky investment.

People are unpredictable and uncontrollable, but AI is not. AI is the slave these C-levels have been praying for.


u/ghostgnome Feb 06 '23

Look up what were the Top 10 box offices in the last 20 years and you'll understand.


u/CMDeml Feb 06 '23

On top of the other points, it can't make actors "move" young. Anyone who's seen the fight scene in "The Irishman" with de-age Robert De Niro knows it looks all wrong.


u/Xinlitik Feb 07 '23

This is an awesome tool that is unfortunately going to be misused a lot. I think it is super cool to have photorealistic deaging when it contributes to the plot. For example- flashbacks in movies could now show the same actor young instead of a different actor.

However using it to milk a franchise with the same actor 40 years later is just more tired BS coming out of Hollywood. Come up with some new ideas instead of the fifth derivative movie in a series… It’s bad enough that they cant seem to write original movies anymore that aren’t based on a comic or 80s film


u/Riptide360 Feb 06 '23

We are living in a simulation!


u/adarkuccio Feb 06 '23

Then please give me some cheat codes


u/theonewhoknocksforu Feb 07 '23

And the simulation is actually part of another simulation!


u/Pee_Wee_Mer_Man Feb 06 '23

Hopefully this will cause actors to ease down with all the freaky plastic surgery


u/ZeeMastermind Feb 07 '23

Or make it worse. The widespread airbrushing of models, actors, etc. in advertisements has a negative effect on folks' self-perception. AI could certainly adjust how actors look so that they fit the "ideal" body type in much the same way, and I imagine the effects on folks' psyche will be about the same.

Even when you know that the images are altered, people (especially young people) will still be affected by this.


u/PikeMcCoy Feb 07 '23

as i said during “Rogue One” when cgi Peter Cushing shows up…

We’re never going to get rid of Tom Cruise.


u/blippityblop Feb 06 '23

It's definitely starting to take over my line of work. Feed it data and it can spit it back out pretty accurately with the parameters available. I saw this coming over 10 years ago when I was reading MIT research papers about AI in my field. It has the potential to put a lot of people out of work, including myself.


u/jratreddit Feb 06 '23

it will put EVERYone out of work in 20 years. no human can think as efficiently or quickly as an AI program. Combine it with robots from Darpa and the rest and we're pretty close to automating all work.

Design and programming will be useful for a while yet, but eventually those too will be automated through AI. What then will be left? what do people do when we're all useless? Will we take on a new purpose, explore the universe, or just slack off into obscurity?


u/feyyd Feb 06 '23

Not everyone, the people who prompt AI will still have jobs, just going to be like 5-10x fewer people needed.


u/jratreddit Feb 06 '23

nah, those people will be replaced by AI designed to program AI. 20 years might be too fast, but it's coming. No human can beat a computer at chess, no human will be better at programming AI than AI that's been programmed to do it. The only "jobs" left will be policy makers and law makers, and there are steps being taken to remove humans from the law process as well, because humans are flawed and biased.


u/pulpatine Feb 06 '23

Just like Twilight Zone. Brain Center at Whipple’s


u/CactusHam Feb 07 '23

I've seen what AI can do with art. It makes Images but actually making art is harder. Computers struggle with creativity, so I think those of us with creative jobs are safe at least for a little while longer. In the meantime though, I hope it makes some of the tedious parts of the jobs easier!


u/jratreddit Feb 07 '23

Like I said, it's going to take a little bit to get through the teething phases and reach production quality AI, but it's an exponential growth curve, and it's trending up already. Within our lifetimes we will see it become mainstream


u/GoneFishing36 Feb 06 '23

Can't wait for AI movie.

Not just our word patterns are predicted, even the associated motion of acts can be predicted. Actors only need to re-shoot about 10% of footage as the director wants to add a few personal touches.

Pff, not even the actor. Just a mo cap team and overlay the hottest face on it.


u/squeevey Feb 06 '23

I think Jennifer Lopez wanted editors to de-age her a bit in "Shotgun Wedding", but woof it looked like shit.


u/Competitive-Dot-3333 Feb 06 '23

Last generation of real actors.


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u/lapseofreason Feb 06 '23

Care to elaborate a bit more ?


u/zalurker Feb 07 '23

Oh. Just shut up and remake Grease with young Elvis already. I want to hear him sing Greased Lighting.


u/Cryptoismygame Feb 08 '23

Movie companies reading they can profit non stop with some actors.