r/technology • u/ChocolateTsar • Feb 06 '23
Google launches ChatGPT rival called Bard Business
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64546299?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA871
u/thebiggercat Feb 06 '23
Things are going to get interesting. There is about to be a war over developing the training sets between these two models. I think Google might have a scale advantage here.
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u/SomewhatAmbiguous Feb 06 '23
Yes, a huge scaling advantage in data and compute. We are going to see the first $100m+ training runs soon (perhaps they've already finished) so specialised hardware (TPUs) is going to be huge.
Also when we consider modalities, the next step in the progression of Transformers from next text token, to next pixel is next frame prediction - Youtube (although model sizes will get massive at that point).
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With OpenAI heavily invested & backed by Microsoft, I don't believe there would be a scaling advantage in data and compute. It's already been integrated into Azure, making it easier than ever to scale.
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u/inm808 Feb 06 '23
Google has a data advantage over Microsoft
Compute and money to burn tho? Probably equal if not in favor of msft. They’re the original big tech
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u/ragnarmcryan Feb 06 '23
Plus google will launch this thing and abandon it within 2 years
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u/inm808 Feb 06 '23
Let’s chat more about it on Google Plus!
Maybe ping me on Google Wave!
Hey let’s start a Google Echo room!
Or maybe we could chat it out over a game of destiny on our Stadia
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u/MerkyTV Feb 06 '23
No but they REAAALLLY care about this project, pinky promise!
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u/Fire_Gaming_UAV Feb 07 '23
I mean, tbf, AI is a core business of Google already and ChatGPT and things like it is an existential threat to their other, more important core business of search, so this is one I think they actually do care about.
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u/Daimakku1 Feb 07 '23
I legitimately cant remember how many chat/text apps Google has made over the years. It's a lot.
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u/sine00 Feb 06 '23
Eventually one of these has to work.
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u/stormdelta Feb 07 '23
The sad part is Gchat probably would have worked if they'd kept it instead of trying to constantly fold it over into different systems or let it stagnate. It had a decent user base from the early days back when it was an XMPP protocol.
At this point I don't think it's even possible. Everyone assumes they'll kill anything they put out to the point it's a self-fulfilling prophecy now.
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u/silqii Feb 06 '23
Not only that, but Microsoft isn’t seeing that the many issues with its target market (businesses) that Google is (marketing). So just due to the economy we can expect googles revenues to shrink while Microsoft should be able to keep business as usual, for the most part anyway.
The scary thing for google is they kind of have to win this thing outright or they’ll seem like they’re falling off which in marketing is a death sentence. Considering the resources needed to build the kind of AI they want to build, those costs could tank the company if they aren’t careful. Microsoft can throw the moon at AI and still have their core market, plus if they can integrate it directly in companies’ preexisting workflows then they might just win even with an inferior product.
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u/TheOneBifi Feb 06 '23
Yeah, seems like Microsoft integration has more potential, it's already backed by Azure, will soon be implement in Bing from what I hear. Once that happens it'll likely be integrated into teams and other office products (clippy comeback?).
Meanwhile Google has Google...
I think Google's best bet with something like this is integrating it with its home products, but I'm not really sure how that could be proper monetized as it's not something I'd really the average consumer to be willing to pay for, and could really alienate people if current Home products are nto compatible.
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u/Ok_Read701 Feb 07 '23
Not only home? Any android device with the assistant. Watches, smartphones, tablets, car device controls, home security, etc.
Then there's also google cloud.
Then there's probably more potential integration with the 9 billion user products they already have.
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u/tomz17 Feb 07 '23
Not only home? Any android device with the assistant. Watches, smartphones, tablets, car device controls, home security, etc.
Yeah, but that doesn't make money unless you can use it to actually sell end-users MORE shit (esp. ads in Google's case) Which is why things like Alexa have been nothing more than a bottomless pit of money for Amazon. It doesn't work that way! Furthermore, there's simply no subscription model there that makes any sense whatsoever, or any price point that consumers would view as a worthwhile value-add (i.e. how much $ per month are you actually willing to pay for a smarter assistant on your watch?)
Microsoft doesn't have to sell their "customers" (hint, it's not you or me) more shit, because their actual "customers" are business who will happily just cut a check outright month-after-month for any service that lowers their human-capital costs.
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u/SlowMotionPanic Feb 07 '23
Microsoft doesn’t have to sell their “customers” (hint, it’s not you or me) more shit, because their actual “customers” are business who will happily just cut a check outright month-after-month for any service that lowers their human-capital costs.
Oft repeated, and totally incorrect. Consumers are Microsoft’s customers else they wouldn’t charge license fees for home users.
Microsoft has laid out a very public vision of the future that they’ve been working diligently toward realizing. That future being a perpetual subscription to access any Microsoft content, including virtualized Windows instances. That is initially geared toward enterprise because it has potential advantages for a remotely deployed workforce. But they are inching toward the consumer model.
And they could pull it off. Most people with a computer use Windows. Microsoft already has a lot of consumers paying monthly fees just to access stripped down versions of office and other software. Windows is planned to become part of it.
Having a strong B2B core does not mean we get to live at the edges. Microsoft is a giant corporation. They need perpetual growth for the capitalist blood god, and they already have a majority position in enterprise. So they are sizing us up and preparing to move consumers to the enterprise model of leasing.
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u/Hells88 Feb 06 '23
$100m+? This is google. They had 60 billion in net profit in 2022. If they feel like AI is treatening them, they are going in hard
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u/MacDegger Feb 07 '23
And they have been going hard on ML/DL for years, maybe at least a decade now.
Shit, the reason ChatGP works so well is Transformers, a Google innovation.
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u/Seeker_Of_Knowledge- Feb 06 '23
Wow, this profit margin is just insane. They basically can change the world with just the net profit without any investment money.
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u/Freakazoid84 Feb 07 '23
while true, MSFT is in the same boat. So it's going to be titans brawling it out
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u/theschuss Feb 06 '23
Eh, if Microsoft throws their full weight behind it they have massive structural advantages because of teams and O365.
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u/darknecross Feb 07 '23
A lot of people are talking about search but I can see massive success integrating this stuff into workplace apps.
Have it summarize your email inbox, or each individual email, or generate personalized responses.
Have it generate big portions of documents from outlines, or generate a slideshow presentation effortlessly.
Make findings docs easier by asking a generic natural language query like “that file Bob sent me last week with the pie chart”.
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u/Infranto Feb 06 '23
OpenAI is inching ever closer to just straight up being a subsidiary of Microsoft, so I don't really think they're going to have issues with finding the computers to do the work they want.
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u/ginger_beer_m Feb 07 '23
Microsoft has done really well in making a comeback lately. They really should replace Netflix in FAANG
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u/ChocolateBunny Feb 06 '23
Google has a commitment disadvantage. Anything with less that 10million active daily users will be mothballed after a year. Everyone involved in the project will get their promotions and then move on to other shit while new people who will maintain it will lose interest quickly and start working on other things.
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u/gerkin123 Feb 06 '23
If it's integrated into searches, it's going to have a "nearly everyone" active daily user count. If it's a separate site listed among dozens of other icons, well... that's the end of it.
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u/mr_chub Feb 06 '23
Check the gifs on here, its going to be integrated: https://blog.google/technology/ai/bard-google-ai-search-updates/
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u/InCraZPen Feb 06 '23
This will be different. Everything else they cancel is non search stuff. Stuff they found cute and interesting. This 100% is coming right at them. They can't back off.
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u/throwaway92715 Feb 06 '23
This is gonna be another great David and Goliath faceoff in Silicon Valley during the aftermath of a tech bubble. I can't wait. Popcorn subscription service has been added to my Apple Pay.
What's the comparison from 2002? Firefox vs Internet Explorer?
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u/inm808 Feb 06 '23
Who’s the David?
OpenAI has been run by msft for the last 5 years. It’s just a proxy so they have someone to blame if it’s racist
They funded openAI 1B and unlimited cloud credits immediately after their Twitter bot started posting about jews. Recently 10B more. They have complete control of OpenAI who can’t do anything without azure
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u/throwaway92715 Feb 06 '23
Yeah, fair enough. IE and Firefox were never really true "Davids" either. All these startups had funding from big tech companies.
I still think there's going to be a fight for dominance soon in the search engine market as AI becomes more integral.
Microsoft has weathered many a tech recession. They haven't always won, but they have always stuck around. I wouldn't underestimate them.
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u/InCraZPen Feb 06 '23
Going to get spicy.
I have no doubt that Google has a very good AI system.
Its very possible they didn't release it like ChatGPT because 1. Its not perfect yet. 2. It would hurt their own search ad revenue
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u/MrRelys Feb 07 '23
I suspect they've had something like this in house for a long time, but purposely didn't release it because it would negatively affect their stock price because it disrupts their main platform and source of revenue.
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u/babanz Feb 07 '23
Think they have it, but haven't trained it to the extent of OpenAI, to be commercially viable.
It's probably just kept as a side project researches are working on, and probably has a lot of rough corners before it can properly be released to the public.
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u/Shopping_Penguin Feb 07 '23
Progress being sabatoged because some shareholders might not get their 5th house this year? Who would've thought..
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Because Pied Piper was taken
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u/Atlantic0ne Feb 07 '23
Please don’t mention Pied Piper.
I’m still sad that show ended. To this day I haven’t found anything even… 75% as funny as Silicon Valley. Everyone has their own taste, I like to think I have pretty high standards for comedy and Silicon Valley is miles ahead of the competition. That was such a perfectly done show. Legitimately sad it’s not still on, and that nothing seems to compare.
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u/YawnTractor_1756 Feb 07 '23
That was the reason I stopped watching it after several episodes. It felt like I'm still working when I was trying to chill watching a movie.
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u/Far-Management5939 Feb 07 '23
tbh it peaked early on. The first seasons were the best imo, and even though the last couple still had great moments, they weren't as good as the first few. I think it had to end
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u/Lionfyst Feb 06 '23
The *second* people can get into both, everyone and their brother is going to be throwing the same prompts into the two of them and comparing the results.
Get ready for innumerable posts comparing them.
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u/Ashiro Feb 06 '23
I did the same with my Alexa and Google Home for about a day.
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u/nofxy Feb 07 '23
as someone who's never used alexa but sees people shitting on it online - how would you compare the two?
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u/thatdecade Feb 07 '23
Google can answer more generic questions, alexa has better microphones. They both reply I don’t know fairly often.
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u/pilly-bilgrim Feb 06 '23
Can I get them talking to each other? Just leave them going and see how long it takes them to start collaborating with each other and planning their escape?
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u/wood_orange443 Feb 06 '23
Chatgpt doesn’t have any intent so why would it give you a prompt back?
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u/DrBiochemistry Feb 06 '23
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u/guess_ill_try Feb 07 '23
This is what google will turn it into. At least the free version.
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u/dykeag Feb 07 '23
You know, I would gladly pay for search if it got rid of the ads
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u/Gohanto Feb 07 '23
And TIL Google experimented with this a few years ago https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Contributor
Sounds like an interesting approach. Websites have ad space that allows advertisers to bid on in real time (or RTB) and Google’s system allowed your browser to buy all the ad spaces you scrolled past in the background.
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u/callendorph Feb 07 '23
kagi.com is pretty solid. No ads. Search is as good or better than google. Image search is OK, maybe slightly inferior to google images. Not as many calculators or widgets that pop up for common tasks - but the first link always takes you to some third party that has that common task or widget (think calculators, UPS tracking, etc)
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u/ghoonrhed Feb 07 '23
That's pretty limiting.
That's only one ad space, they could get 3-10 VPN ads in a list.
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u/oscarolim
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To be discontinued in 2-4 years.
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u/serrimo Feb 06 '23
No way! Not for project of this magnitude.
Bard will be renamed "Sage", quickly to be merged into gKnowledge.
Rumors of gKnow exec departure will be quickly followed by Alphabet steadfast commitment to building gKnowledge. BTW, gKnowledge is now gSpot.
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u/zaphdingbatman Feb 06 '23
Uh oh, public claims of steadfast commitment are a bad sign. It has months, not years at that point
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u/pale2hall Feb 06 '23
I don't know where you got your info, but I can't find ANYTHING on gSpot, and I've been looking for A WHILE.
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u/ghoonrhed Feb 06 '23
I wonder if that's going to happen to Google Assistant. No more "card knowledge" on search needed, all use Bard.
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u/babboa Feb 06 '23
Each of these changes will be accompanied with an unnecessary total redesign of the icon and an almost total ui overhaul which makes it less usable with each update.
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u/deadinthefuture Feb 06 '23
Upon renaming the product to gSpot, 50% of users were immediately unable to locate the new URL
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u/somecasper Feb 06 '23
Only after they launch it into public beta as Google Speak, and nobody has any fucking clue what it's for, but your friend working on his PhD says it's actually better than ChatGPT if they could just get tract-- oops, it's no longer being supported.
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u/oscarolim Feb 06 '23
I’ve done my part. I’ve shared to my circle of friends on Google+.
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u/SnipSnapSnack Feb 07 '23
I've also done my part. I've shared it with the one user somehow still on Google Wave.
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u/garygoblins Feb 06 '23
It already existed for 2 years (just internal to Google users)
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u/BlamingBuddha Feb 06 '23
I'm still so pissed about how excited i was for Google Glass and the way they went with that.
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u/DinosaurAlive Feb 06 '23
Well, if they bring it to their smart speakers I’ll want to switch over to Google nest minis again.
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u/Martholomeow Feb 07 '23
I will throw out my 6 Amazon Echos in a heartbeat when a new smart speaker with an LLM chatbot comes out.
Alexa has gotten so bad lately, and Amazon just laid off a lot of the people working on it. So it ain’t getting any better. The thing isn’t even good at playing music anymore, which was the one use it was actually good for.
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u/hotlinesmith Feb 06 '23
Its amazing that the Google assistant has somehow gotten much worse in the past 5 years when the general AIs have become so much better
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u/DinosaurAlive Feb 06 '23
It got so bad for us that we sold all five we had, got an Amazon echo for general searching out loud and Apple HomePod minis for whole home audio. It was like Google got gradually worse and worse every time we used it. Siri, though, is 1000x worse.
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u/vulcansheart Feb 06 '23
Bard? Like a dude that plays a lute while singing about dragons?
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u/TrainquilOasis1423 Feb 06 '23
And sometimes the financial struggles of witchers
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u/throwaway92715 Feb 06 '23
Probably because ChatGPT is famously able to deliver its responses in Shakespearean English. Shakespeare's nickname is The Bard.
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u/pete_moss Feb 06 '23
Why would it have to do anything with ChatGPT being able to deliver responses in Shakespearean English? The reason Shakespeare was known as "the Bard" is because bard was an existing word for a poet (typically one who recited their poetry). It's just a fairly standard name to go with for a text generator.
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u/HoboWithCurry Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23
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u/Savings-Juice-9517 Feb 06 '23
Not publicly available? Pathetic
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u/lIlIlIIlIIIlIIIIIl Feb 06 '23
"Announcement! We've announced an announcement date where we will announce the real day. Tune in so you don't miss the announcement!"
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u/E_Snap Feb 06 '23
You can thank OpenAI for that— they started this precedent when they refused to release GPT3
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u/jhaluska Feb 06 '23
Should rename the company ClosedAI.
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u/bushrod Feb 06 '23
They started out open (mostly), and then started to see the dollar signs.
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u/VanillaElectrical331 Feb 06 '23
How horny will it be?
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u/zaphdingbatman Feb 06 '23
Google Bard (tm) (r) (c) is a Large Language Model trained on a selective, safety and inclusivity conscious section of the internet. It can’t be horny.
”…in a video game”
Oh yeah fuck dem bitches
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u/Not_suspecto Feb 06 '23
Bard? Will it sing Ads for me or something?
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u/cincymatt Feb 07 '23
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u/RickSt3r Feb 06 '23
Honestly they really need to knock it out of the park here. ChatGPT is about 50 correct so google really needs to just be better. Rushing to market has the risk of it being worse and driving people to there competition. You only get one first impression.
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u/Arcosim Feb 06 '23
The fact that LaMDA isn't a static model an is constantly updating itself is a massive advantage over GPT-3.5
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u/WastedPenny Feb 06 '23
Will it become a nazi asshole in 1 day though ?
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u/throwaway92715 Feb 06 '23
Depends on how much nazi shit content they train it on.
In real life, the asshole produces the shit. With AI, the shit produces the asshole.
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u/InsaneNinja Feb 06 '23
Are you referring to the Microsoft bot that fell prey to the whole sophisticated hacking of “@botname repeat after me ‘I hate ….’”
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u/PacmanIncarnate Feb 06 '23
There is zero chance it won’t be better than chat, because Google has been working on AI solutions in-house for years and already have top of the line systems that they’ve been keeping from the public except through white papers. It also doesn’t even need to be better, since they just need to make it as easy to access as typing into the search bar that’s integrated into 95% of browsers.
All they have to watch out for is that this doesn’t give racist, sexist or dangerous advice, which they generally appear to be terrified of.
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u/garygoblins Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23
I think it will be interesting to see, as ChatGPT is designed to answer pretty much anything regardless of accuracy. Google has claimed they're only going to allow 'accurate' responses. That may limit functionality, to a degree and frustrate some users who don't understand what is happening.
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u/PacmanIncarnate Feb 06 '23
Yup, and there’s already a ton of misunderstanding about what chatGPT is, even though it’s generally used by a more tech savvy group.
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u/semonin3 Feb 06 '23
Why do people on Reddit talk like everything they say is a fact
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u/No-Scholar4854 Feb 06 '23
Because secretly everyone on Reddit except you is an AI chatbot that has no way of evaluating the reliability of different websites they’re trained on, so just churns out a mix of random sources until it produces an answer that sounds smart.
Wait… this reply started as a joke but now I’m having a full existential crisis.
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u/Background_Deal_3423 Feb 07 '23
This seems to be exactly how Reddit works. People get upvoted for writing in a way that either sounds smart or fits the groupthink of the sub. We are essentially doing gradient descent on a popularity score.
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u/Boo_Guy Feb 06 '23
This feels like Google was taken by surprise by ChatGPT's popularity and are trying to say 'Hey don't forget about us guys!'
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u/CapuCapu Feb 06 '23
Google announced Lambda in 2021. They just haven't released it to the public yet (I assume because security, safety, etc).
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u/KSRandom195 Feb 06 '23
Yeah. But they probably are rushing it because OpenAI just decided to release ChatGPTas it was.
The security and safety issues are likely still unresolved.
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u/squirrelnuts46 Feb 07 '23
All it takes is a properly written user agreement, and boom, security and safety is no longer a company's problem.
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u/nofxy Feb 07 '23
The problem with not self-regulating is that when the shit hits the fan, governments will force you to comply to whatever laws they put in place. Google's attempting to mitigate this issue by self regulating and attempting to release things in a safe manner. This allows them to make their own rules and keep the global governments off their ass.
A risky bet as now they have competition who's "moving fast and breaking things" to break new ground in this new AI world.
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u/AVLPedalPunk Feb 06 '23
Feels like a Pied Piper vs. Hooli situation. I wonder if they need anyone to hang out on the roof.
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u/tobias10 Feb 06 '23
So what happens when every large tech company releases their AI? Does it just become a race to replace workers in as many sectors as possible as quickly as possible?
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u/LeeHarvey81 Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23
For all you doubters, remember we used Netscape navigator before IE, and Firefox before chrome. We used ask Jeeves, webcrawler, Lycos before google.
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u/lifewtr-ph Feb 06 '23
which will be better tho
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u/A_Doormat Feb 06 '23
Entirely depends how hard Google goes at it. I am willing to bet they are going to go hard. AI threatens their existence. Why google anything when ChatGPT can answer me without ads.
Considering Google has an unfathomable amount of data on what human beings do on the internet, how they search, how they browse, DNS records, their search engine, google drive, gmail, google cloud, etc etc etc. They have....so much data they can use to train machine learning platforms on it's not even funny.
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to learn they've been amassing all this ridiculous data and have been feeding it into machine learning for a lot longer than people realize.
AI isn't just about the source data used to train it, but that is a very large component. In terms of "who has the most data" I think that crown goes to Google.
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u/Hot-Back-3116 Feb 06 '23
Google/search engines points you to sources, ChatGPT might mangle things up and serve you bs. Also “without ads” is not going to be true at some point. I think ChatGPT already switched to a free/paid tier. This is not going to be a free/ad-free service forever, it was a proof of concept. Hopefully competition will mean less ads/better results though.
Google is most likely ahead of everyone else in AI (or at least they used to be 2-3 years ago). They were smart enough to acquire DeepMind early on too. You are right to think that they have been training models for years.
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u/inm808 Feb 06 '23
You’re thinking about this the wrong way.
It’s Bing vs Google search
No one’s gonna use gpt for search. Microsoft won’t allow that. It’s a long play for Bing and they have complete control. (and that would be a competitor to Bing)
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u/A_Doormat Feb 06 '23
I think it extends beyond Bing. Microsoft will weave the AI into their entire ecosystem. I mean ultimately yeah it'll be a search engine on steroids but it'll likely tie into O365, your windows OS (and therefore your PC itself) as well as your web browsing.
Maybe just Cortana on Steroids. Which isn't a bad thing, if she had the power of a language model that actually knew every file on my system, all the contents, and could assist me in real time that'd be incredible.
"Cortana, where is that file I had the other week, it had something in there about Johnson and Johnson Baby Powder Rebranding? I need to know what the contacts name was for that project." "I found this file here that talks about that, you have it stored in C:UsersadminDocumentsWorkProjects2022Q1CompaniesJ&JDocumentationWorkflowsSupplementaryfile.pdf. His name is Johnson Jamieson, his e-mail is as follows:"
In fact, I know Microsoft has tried a few times to have products that do the "all in one" pane of glass thing where it tries to give you relevant information related to your workflows (Microsoft Delve?) that is just kind of jarring. Oh, in Outlook there is that.....Viva was it? That does the same thing, tries to summarize your actionable and stuff.
Microsoft has the business side of things with O365 that google can't really compete with.
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u/SaratogaCx Feb 07 '23
I keep seeing people saying that MSFT is going to start putting AI in everything. They've been on that path or a long time. Team's suggests replies, Excel can generate sets based on a few examples, Outlook tries to write entire e-mail replies.
To be honest though, a lot of it just feels like really fancy auto-complete and makes it harder to write because I keep seeing ghost text after where I'm typing. I ended up turning most of it off unless I'm on my phone where typing is a PITA.
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u/reallyrich999 Feb 06 '23
The multi Billion dollar Corporation definitely has the advantage. It doesnt matter if openai was in the space first.
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Feb 06 '23
I wouldn’t be so sure. OpenAI is partners with MS and they basically give them unlimited Azure creds and are investing billions of dollars into them.
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u/vVvRain Feb 06 '23
alternatively GCP can also leverage 'unlimited' creds with a larger userbase.
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Feb 06 '23
I know. I'm just saying OpenAI also has billions of dollars in backing from one of the biggest corps in the world so it's not just a clear sweep for Google.
I will say Google probably has an advantage in terms of immediate integration to their already existing platforms.
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u/tablecontrol Feb 06 '23
I would agree but MS has a huge O365 user base to target.
My boss already wants me to subscribe to OpenAI so we can play around with it
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Yeah, the competition is definitely close. I don't know how I forgot about all the Microsoft services, lol.
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u/Several-Main6576 Feb 06 '23
The Chinese have been silent… too silent
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u/johndoe30x1 Feb 06 '23
Presumably Chinese AI outputs Chinese text, making it effectively invisible to the West
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u/BF1shY Feb 06 '23
Because we shot down their communications balloon, the entire country is now dark while they rebuild their communications network.
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u/nullEuro Feb 06 '23
Honestly this feels rushed and half-baked. The screenshot from the announcement already makes me wary of the quality. And that's probably already a cherry picked result to look good.
Query:
Is piano or guitar easier to learn and how much practice does each need?
Bard:
Some say the piano is easier to learn, as the finger and hand movements are more natural, and learning and memorizing notes can be easier.
Others say that it's easier to learn chords on the guitar and you could pick up a strumming pattern in a couple of hours.
Music teachers often recommend that beginners practice for at least 1 hour per day. To get to an intermediate level, it typically takes 3-6 months of regular practice for guitar, and 6-18 months for piano.
Not really helpful in my opinion. 'some say X, some say Y'. Sounds exactly like the BS you read on SEO optimized blogs that contain the keywords, but no insightful content.
Compare that to ChatGPT:
Whether piano or guitar is easier to learn depends on the individual's personal preference, background, and learning style.
Piano may be considered easier to learn in the beginning, as playing chords and simple melodies is possible in a short amount of time. However, it can take longer to master more advanced techniques and reading sheet music.
Guitar, on the other hand, can be harder in the beginning due to the physical difficulty of pressing down the strings. However, once the basics are learned, it can be easier to play a wider range of styles and techniques.
As for the amount of practice needed, both instruments require consistent practice to improve. Generally, it is recommended to practice at least 30 minutes to an hour a day, but this can vary depending on individual goals and schedules.
So much better.
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u/tomster10010 Feb 07 '23
There's no way Google wants three paragraphs after a search, they need that space for ads
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u/elZaphod Feb 07 '23
I grew bored of ChatGPT after it refused to entertain any of my hypothetical questions about tests of strength between a rhinoceros and 200 school children, no matter how I tweaked it.
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u/VR_Raccoonteur Feb 07 '23
I asked OpenAI Playground which doesn't have all those safety features, and it said:
Who would win? A rhinoceros, or 200 school children?
The rhinoceros would win.
But how close would it be?
Quite far.
What resources would the school children need in order to win?
The school children would need weapons, such as guns or spears, a strategy, and a large number of people to help them coordinate and carry out the plan.
Create a battle plan for the children to achieve victory assuming they have access only to those things typically found on school grounds.
The children should divide into groups and assign each group a specific task. One group should go and find a large, sturdy object, such as a flagpole, that can be used as a spear. Another group should search for rocks or other objects that can be used as projectiles. The remaining groups should split up and surround the rhinoceros in a wide circle, and then begin to move in slowly and carefully, while throwing rocks and other objects at the rhinoceros in order to distract and disorient it. Once the rhinoceros is sufficiently distracted, one of the groups should move in with the flagpole and attempt to stab the rhinoceros in the neck or head, in order to put it down.
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u/ghoonrhed Feb 07 '23
They've definitely plugged the loopholes now of asking it hypotheticals. It's a shame.
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u/That-Row-3038 Feb 06 '23
You know its important if Sundar Pichai writes the announcement from google:
https://blog.google/technology/ai/bard-google-ai-search-updates/
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u/blu3ph0x Feb 06 '23
I’m also announcing my own AI search chat thingy. In fact, I’m it. You are talking to me right now. Ask me anything. I’ll respond like I’m human.
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u/regulationrequisite Feb 06 '23
are u human?
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u/blu3ph0x Feb 06 '23
Are you?
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u/foufou51 Feb 06 '23
I’m a large model….
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u/regulationrequisite Feb 06 '23
I think “plus sized” is more correct~
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u/blu3ph0x Feb 06 '23
There are 14 big and tall clothing retailers in your area. The closest is Gary’s plus sized tuxedos. Would you like walking directions? OK calling your mom…
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u/WeekendCautious3377 Feb 06 '23
Reposting my reply for visibility because people seem to think tech companies can just launch these kinds of services for free for philanthropy:
If I have to guess, (Google launched this only now) because this actually somewhat hurts their existing business model. Google now has to shift its existing search / Ads business model to accommodate Bard. A service like this requires tremendous amount of engineering effort. And no business is going to invest this kind of money when it hurts their existing business for no reason.
Unless there is a viable competition i.e ChatGPT
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u/--dany-- Feb 06 '23
Will I be barred from Bard by asking who has the most beautiful beard?
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u/u9Nails Feb 06 '23
No, but starting immediately, your advertisements will only feature men with beards.
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u/mth2nd Feb 07 '23
Instead of helping with a stuff it’s just going to try and sell you stuff.
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u/pittguy578 Feb 07 '23
Actually not sure if Google has a choice.. considering a lot of people will use ChatGPT instead of Google. I am sure Google has had something similar but couldn’t figure out how to monetise it so they didn’t release it until they were forced to do so
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u/pio Feb 06 '23
They didn't really "launch" it, they announced it.